Does ASO Ban Froome?

[RobbieCanuck]

After lurking here a bit, I'm convinced legitimate bike racing is done. Over. Testing will always be playing catch up, and the rewards for doping are just too sweet.

The only valid competitive cycling will be corporate bike-to-work-day participation contests.

I regret you are correct. The current peloton, teams, sponsors and the ASO ("we just organize we don't test" attitude) are just not committed to transparency and McQuaid/UCI continues to live in Wonderland about the state of the sport.

Cycling as a true clean athletic endeavour is dead! While the riders/teams/managers bear primary responsibility for this mess, the UCI has been a hapless, leaderless and useless organization.

There is not a true fan in the world who doesn't have doubts about every race be it a grand tour or a one day classic, whether they want to admit it or not.

I don't even pay attention to the GC anymore. Who cares! There is absolutely no credibility in pro cycling.

 

[EnacheV]

Prudhomme is that you?

someone asked if im that Braislford guy (whatever his name is)

make up your mind guys and girls

 

[dgodave]

I regret you are correct. The current peloton, teams, sponsors and the ASO ("we just organize we don't test" attitude) are just not committed to transparency and McQuaid/UCI continues to live in Wonderland about the state of the sport.

Cycling as a true clean athletic endeavour is dead! While the riders/teams/managers bear primary responsibility for this mess, the UCI has been a hapless, leaderless and useless organization.

There is not a true fan in the world who doesn't have doubts about every race be it a grand tour or a one day classic, whether they want to admit it or not.

I don't even pay attention to the GC anymore. Who cares! There is absolutely no credibility in pro cycling.

The very last clean victory that I'm 100% sure about was when I won the 1986 Tahoe-Roubaix juniors category.
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[sprenten]

So the 2001 climb did not have a 'Pailheres' ridden at a high tempo before it. Makes this result look even more ridiculous. I thought Froome would have lived with Lance. There is a good argument to be made that he would have beaten him !

If he is doing that clean, one can only imagine what he'd do on the sauce :O

The 2001 Bonascre climb was preceded by 2 days of climbing a total of 4 HC ascents followed by a rest day. Massive fatigue would have been present since those previous days climbs were crushed and the next two days have 3 HC and 5 cat 1 climbs and only on the 5th day in the mountains over the course of 6 consectutive days did Armstrong show a drop in power outputs probably because he was only following Ulrich's wheel which seems to be the case as results of the last time trial suggest.

Being juiced up probably doesn't help a one time effort up the Bonascre after only 1 real significant climb in the tour, being juiced up helps you do longer duration efforts, recover from them and repeat them over and over without a loss of fitness or an increase in fatigue for longer periods of time than not being juiced, it does help on ascents exceeding greater than 1700m because of the decrease in partial pressure that makes oxygen consumption harder while doing physical work. This year's tour has a similar period as 2001 following Ventoux with a rest day, the false flat climb towards Gap, the camelback TT, Le Alpe x 2, Glandon/Madeleine/Croix Fry, Annecy-Somnez.

 

[LaFlorecita]

someone asked if im that Braislford guy (whatever his name is)

make up your mind guys and girls

Wait you don't even know his name?! What?? This is the guy who made your guy a GT winner. He deserves to be known by his name

 

[lemoogle]

Wait you don't even know his name?! What?? This is the guy who made your guy a GT winner. He deserves to be known by his name

According to all his posts, the one thing he does know about is Barcelona, Christiano ronaldo and Real Madrid. But he's here to tell us about doping in cycling.

 

[EnacheV]

According to all his posts, the one thing he does know about is Barcelona, Christiano ronaldo and Real Madrid. But he's here to tell us about doping in cycling.

i use them in my examples because are well known brands

 

[the sceptic]

According to all his posts, the one thing he does know about is Barcelona, Christiano ronaldo and Real Madrid. But he's here to tell us about doping in cycling.

Im pretty sure he is here to troll any ruin as many threads as possible so people should just stop feeding him (yes i know im guilty of that too)

 

[Dazed and Confused]

why they would ban the next golden boy?

with his sweet speech, modesty and lack of arrogance (so far), CF is a perfect candidate to repair the Armstrong damage.

However, if hes found doped (Froome) .... cycling will be under curling for the next 10 years

So how long will Sky (the sponsor) keep funding cycling? Another three years? When the Co pulls the plug, business people will look around for new opportunities.

Froome exposed as a fraud after all the money moved? Who cares, throw him under the bus and never trust a parasite riddled white man from the jungle again. It will barely register with the cycling fans, except some will claim they knew it all along.

 

[lemoogle]

So how long will Sky (the sponsor) keep funding cycling? Another three years? When the Co pulls the plug, business people will look around for new opportunities.

Froome exposed as a fraud after all the money moved? Who cares, throw him under the bus and never trust a parasite riddled white man from the jungle again. It will barely register with the cycling fans, except some will claim they knew it all along.

I have a feeling Wiggins will be hailed as the Clean one no matter what happens.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I have a feeling Wiggins will be hailed as the Clean one no matter what happens.

Yep, he will be much harder to expose. One wonder year and then scaled back with the rogue Johnny foreigners and plastic Brits taken over.

Don't think we will see Sir Wiggo breaking records again.

 

[Taxus4a]

If he dope, of course yes.

So, no.

 

[Alphabet]

Lots of people on here say Gregory James LeMond did just that.
And with lead shot gun pellets imbedded in his heart.

Was blood doping widespread in the mid '80s in cycling? Most people on here tend to agree that EPO abuse only really started in the late '80s and only became widespread in the '90s.

 

[purcell]

I regret you are correct. The current peloton, teams, sponsors and the ASO ("we just organize we don't test" attitude) are just not committed to transparency and McQuaid/UCI continues to live in Wonderland about the state of the sport.

Cycling as a true clean athletic endeavour is dead! While the riders/teams/managers bear primary responsibility for this mess, the UCI has been a hapless, leaderless and useless organization.

There is not a true fan in the world who doesn't have doubts about every race be it a grand tour or a one day classic, whether they want to admit it or not.

I don't even pay attention to the GC anymore. Who cares! There is absolutely no credibility in pro cycling.

Hell, I was even looking askance at some of the folks at the Penticton Fondo this past weekend.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Lots of people on here say Gregory James LeMond did just that.
And with lead shot gun pellets imbedded in his heart.

Again with the veiled allegations. There's a thread for you to post names, dates, drugs, places if Lemond doped. Everyone knows you have nothing, so post on that thread or stop now.

Lots of people saw Lemond destroy fields as a teenage amateur, graduate to international development races and destroy those, graduate to the elite peloton and consistently animate races and win a bunch there too.

Regarding EPO in the eighties, there's some evidence some had it, but not widespread. There were a number of heart attacks at the time at the elite amateur level in the late 1980's, so very likely EPO overdoses. By 1992, it's widespread and delivering super-human performances.

 

[SilentAssassin]

Lemond cheated everyone knows it

As far as Froome is concerned I don't know if he is cheating or maybe he is just having the best tour of his career

I'm not sure if the hate is coming from the butthurt Contador fans that infect these forums either

All I know is with this much money on the line, it pays big time to cheat> With the pressure from sponsors etc I do not know if this Froome kid is legit > And I'm not sure if I would say that he came out of nowhere, Froome had a solid TDF last year, and everyone predicted he could be the "Next" great cyclist of this generation+

The problem is all the Greats in cycling have cheated

 

[Alphabet]

That's unfair, to say that people target Froome/Sky because they're 'butthurt Contador fans'. I like Contador, certainly, but that he isn't winning makes no difference to my opinion of Froome. Even when he crushed Froome at last year's Vuelta, I was still convinced Froome was doping.

 

[LaFlorecita]

That's unfair, to say that people target Froome/Sky because they're 'butthurt Contador fans'. I like Contador, certainly, but that he isn't winning makes no difference to my opinion of Froome. Even when he crushed Froome at last year's Vuelta, I was still convinced Froome was doping.

it's also ridiculous to assume for example DirtyWorks and benotti are Contador fans

 

[lemoogle]

That's unfair, to say that people target Froome/Sky because they're 'butthurt Contador fans'. I like Contador, certainly, but that he isn't winning makes no difference to my opinion of Froome. Even when he crushed Froome at last year's Vuelta, I was still convinced Froome was doping.

Contador did not "crush" anyone at last year's vuelta, he was probably the 3rd strongest rider there. This made his win quite exciting I'd be honest.

 

[hrotha]

Meh, what do you expect, really. It's also often suggested that Sky haters are butthurt former Armstrong fans from the US, and I'm pretty sure Armstrong and Contador fans set up appointments to fight each other before every race, football hooligans style.

 

[King Boonen]

Meh, what do you expect, really. It's also often suggested that Sky haters are butthurt former Armstrong fans from the US, and I'm pretty sure Armstrong and Contador fans set up appointments to fight each other before every race, football hooligans style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRTlStScolw

 

[hrotha]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRTlStScolw

Arrieta's Whirlwind of Death is still a classic.

 

[The Hitch]

it's also ridiculous to assume for example DirtyWorks and benotti are Contador fans

Hrotha has been trying to get Contador banned from the sport since before any sky fan even knew what cycling was. For people to come in and tell someone like him that he must be a Contador fanboy now that he calls out sky's bs is stalinistic.

 

[King Boonen]

Arrieta's Whirlwind of Death is still a classic.

Takes a while for them to get broken up. I'm assuming it's because everyone off camera is rolling around on the floor laughing.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Hrotha has been trying to get Contador banned from the sport since before any sky fan even knew what cycling was. For people to come in and tell someone like him that he must be a Contador fanboy now that he calls out sky's bs is stalinistic.

yup indeed.

I still remember that thread where hrtoha was accused of being a contador fanboy