Does ASO Ban Froome?

[Zam_Olyas]

My case isn´t strong*. Never said this...
I just use the technique others use (like cherry picking, casting doubts, fingerpointing, crawling in the past, etc.).
You can spoil everybodys name, especially in cycling. But i don´t like it. I just wanna show where false acusations can lead. I thought that would be clear now after discussing Froome for almost two years...
If discussions in the clinic would be based on hard evidence, or at least on smoking guns (like it had been in the Armstrong case for years), then it would be ok. Now we only have obscure theories. Nothing more, nothing less...


* Neither is it in the case of the acusers. We all do not know if Froome is doping or not (but at least we know he is at least cleaner than many others, given the past we know about some of the so-called contenders who are still active in this very tour). In the end we have yet to get any doping link in the direction of Sky (unlike Lampre, Xacobeo, Saunier now Movistar, and so on, and so on)... That is my point i try to make clear every time i write about Froome. I just wanna play fair. But if others play unfair, i feel welcomed and do the same...

No doping link in the direction of sky you say?. I think for you as long as it's not lance or the spanish it's perfectly okay

 

[bianchigirl]

Foxy which bit of the chicken s testimony about leinders did you not understand? There was only one reason Brailsford set out to get leinders onboard - now we have a new chicken who went from miraculous to mutant - the numbers don't lie

 

[Ripper]

Froome has stated a few times now, when asked about doping, that he isn't going to have his titles stripped in 5 or 6 years time.....he's that confident ! to keep saying that proves that Sky have this signed and sealed from the TOP.

TBH, lots of dopers make comments like this.

Who knows, perhaps what they are doing is not technically 'doping' right now. Keep in mind it took a few years for EPO to actually be considered 'cheating'.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Froome's blessed from the inside. Murdoch money, Murdoch media.

What an absurd conspiracy theory. Typical left-wing response, 'it's Rupert Murdoch's fault'.

 

[doperhopper]

just one question

VAM?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Turn off the broadcast. I have one more day, then it's off.

that would be the rest day??

 

[spookyload]

I just hope that when they bust Froome they look back at Sir Bradley as well. What is working for the goose obviously worked for the gander. I said it all last year. You don't peak in April then hold it through the Olympics.

 

[ozerulz]

Heres to hoping that I wake up to the news that sky has been busted.

 

[Alphabet]

What an absurd conspiracy theory. Typical left-wing response, 'it's Rupert Murdoch's fault'.

OT but Murdoch has proven to be a corrupt individual before- with those phonehacking scandals. I'm not saying he had any more to do with Sky's doping than the US Postal Service had with USPS, but he's still a pretty reprehensible person.

 

[ebandit]

farcical

quintana attacks prr section goes mad...............what a race best tour for years

froomey attacks prr section goes mad................what a farce

before froomey is banned someone should at least identify the issue

it's ok to be incredulous but the truth is out there...................somewhere

leinders is way too weak a taint team sky can't be held accountable for his indescretions at rabobank

Mark L

 

[The Hitch]

I agree that this thread goes a bit too far. Yesterday a lot of people who either believed sky or kept quiet about their scepticism had somewhat of a road to Damascus moment.

This thread jumping the gun and suggesting he should be banned, again places parts of the clinic at the extreme alienating the centre.

I just hope that when they bust Froome they look back at Sir Bradley as well. What is working for the goose obviously worked for the gander. I said it all last year. You don't peak in April then hold it through the Olympics.

April? Wiggins started in march. Froome in February.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Maybe i just imagined it but it didnt sound like Froome dawg was getting a lot of cheering today. And after this its only gonna get worse hopefully.

That's what I read on twitter.

People said: "Froome sounds similar to booo" But why would a bunch of random people be chanting Frooooooome.

A person on twitter was at the team presentation and said there was booing and it wasn't just me.

How fun would it be if the podium end ups being Froome Porte and Contador. Booo Boooo Yay!! That would make watching the ceremony bearable for me.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Porte should be banned for what he said about Quintana.

Pescheux: my fear is that we'll have Wiggins, Froome, Porte 123 on Ax3Domaines. I guess this comes close.

The last tt was thrown in to spice up the Froome-Contador duel even more. I guess Froome-Porte will be the duel we'll be looking at.

Dutch ES commentator made a good point. 1-2 second year in a row he said. He said but that's not what sky's aiming for. They're aiming for tdf win for the next 30 years.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I agree that this thread goes a bit too far. Yesterday a lot of people who either believed sky or kept quiet about their scepticism had somewhat of a road to Damascus moment.

This thread jumping the gun and suggesting he should be banned, again places parts of the clinic at the extreme alienating the centre.


April? Wiggins started in march. Froome in February.

DirtyW does come up with some tin foil hat stuff from time to time.

 

[LaFlorecita]

So was Lemond the clinic hero (who learned by then how to manage "blood replacement" coming 105th in the Giro, then 1st in TdF), so was AC (almost dying)...

Alberto had a bunch of great results before 2007.

 

[leon7766]

I can wait.


So this is what the defence of sky has been reduced to?

Any explanations for why Froome rode as fast as Armstrong?

or just haters gonna hate? 500 tests. Losers don't know what its like to commit. sorry you can't believe in miracles. ETC.

But what can Sky defenders do against such rabid hysterical people who cant see the truth.Its been stated hundreds of times to people like yourself no evidence of cleanliness will ever please you .So fun has to be made

 

[leon7766]

Alberto had a bunch of great results before 2007.

Contador is a convicted cheat

 

[thehog]

That's what I read on twitter.

People said: "Froome sounds similar to booo" But why would a bunch of random people be chanting Frooooooome.

A person on twitter was at the team presentation and said there was booing and it wasn't just me.

How fun would it be if the podium end ups being Froome Porte and Contador. Booo Boooo Yay!! That would make watching the ceremony bearable for me.

“It’s over!” he said. “The Tour’s finished!”

It certainly might be over for Madiot’s team — his best-placed rider was Thibaut Pinot at 30th at six minutes back — but there remains little doubt that Team Sky’s dominance in Saturday’s first touch with the mountains certainly deflated the race for the yellow jersey.

Just about every team manager was sharing Madiot’s exasperation as riders trickled across the finish line at Ax-3 Domaines, colorless, exhausted, and at the limit.

The team managers are not hiding their disgust.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

ASO is a business. If the numbers are healthy, the Sky dominance will continue.

Only one thing can stop these dominant "sporting" displays in the short term: a well funded independent anti doping institution. We don't have one and therefore the circus will continue, at least until the numbers starts to turn sour.

 

[biker jk]

Contador is a convicted cheat

True, and Froome is an unconvicted cheat.

 

[BroDeal]

Contador is a convicted cheat

That is absolutely hilarious that muppets are using the words like "cheat" as a term of dishonor. The reason why the sport is infested with dopers is clowns like this. No matter how blatant the cheating is, there are always the soft-headed that will believe any rationalization, no matter how ludicrous. That is what allows the dopers to continue.

In this troll we have an even lower form of life: someone who delights watching cheats get away with it and how it affects those who want the sport cleaned up.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador is a convicted cheat

And Froome will be one as well in a few years time.

 

[hrotha]

ASO is a business. If the numbers are healthy, the Sky dominance will continue.

Wasn't there some talk on Twitter about Prudhomme not being happy with this display?

 

[leon7766]

True, and Froome is an unconvicted cheat.

That sir is not correct

 

[leon7766]

That is absolutely hilarious that muppets are using the words like "cheat" as a term of dishonor. The reason why the sport is infested with dopers is clowns like this. No matter how blatant the cheating is, there are always the soft-headed that will believe any rationalization, no matter how ludicrous. That is what allows the dopers to continue.

In this troll we have an even lower form of life: someone who delights watching cheats get away with it and how it affects those who want the sport cleaned up.

You can get banned for abuse so should perhaps think about this post

I support Sky how is that being a troll