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It's hilarious that Warholm escapes all scrutiny on here for the incredible feat of beating a 29 year old world record just because a woman decided to blaze some jazz lettuce.
Is it that incredible that in 30 years nutrition and training have allowed improvements? Records have always progressed, that this one hadn't is the suspicious part (not that I give Warholm a pass).
 
Richardson is very likely on actual PEDs. Not sure why they nabbed her on weed, but bad things can happen when you take banned substances. Not much sympathy for her. And I'm in awe of the general public acting like weed was the only drug in her system. Dennis Mitchell?
 
Richardson is very likely on actual PEDs. Not sure why they nabbed her on weed, but bad things can happen when you take banned substances. Not much sympathy for her. And I'm in awe of the general public acting like weed was the only drug in her system. Dennis Mitchell?
Agreed, it’s incredibly cringe-worthy. My 1st reaction to hearing she wouldn’t be selected for the relay was to be glad there wouldn’t be day and night coverage of her “shot at redemption” which American viewers seem to gobble up like candy. But thinking on it more, perhaps things will be even worse—they probably will show as much of her watching the race in her grandma’s living room than they show of the race itself. Thanks goodness for European coverage via VPN!
 
What a strange story. The early reports I read did not mention the drug. I think there should be changes to the code, but I don't think that she should be eligible to run the 100m. Still haven't heard if she will be on the 4x100 as that falls outside the 30 day ban.
To be honest I don't really think the code is fit for purpose, but that's a different discussion and I'm not sure how it should change.

All of the athletics falls outside her 30 day ban, but it's USATF policy that stops her competing in the 100m (which is probably the right decision although I personally wouldn't have a problem with them changing it). If weed was handled like alcohol she would be at the Olympics. There's been a lot of people getting angry on social media, rightly so I think, but their anger in many cases is misplaced and aimed at the Olympics, rather than USATF. It is only USATF's selection policy that is stopping her running.

She has not been selected for the 4x100m and I have a bigger problem with that. They have discretionary picks in this case and are hiding behind the selecting the top finishers policy. I'd be very interested to know if anyone has ever been selected outside of that policy.
 
She has not been selected for the 4x100m and I have a bigger problem with that. They have discretionary picks in this case and are hiding behind the selecting the top finishers policy. I'd be very interested to know if anyone has ever been selected outside of that policy.
Agreed. The USATF argument that it was the most 'fair' thing do to take the 6th and 7th place finishers from trials is passing the buck. They probably didn't want the distraction.
"So while our heartfelt understanding lies with Sha'Carri, we must also maintain fairness for all of the athletes who attempted to realize their dreams by securing a place on the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team,"
I don't know how often they use discretionary picks, but one of the most famous examples was the 1996 Olympics Mens 4x400m. Anthuan Maybank was DQed at trials for a lane violation but was selected because he was running really fast times and he ended up anchoring the team to a gold medal. Michael Johnson and Butch Reynolds were injured.


Glad there is at least one other person in the world thinking she's very, very likely on PEDs!!
Hard to believe that a person can run that fast clean.
 
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........i heard her top speed was 40kph....fastest EVER for a woman

.....as i posted after thompson's olympic double double i can't believe others are not waving
flags.....

...meanwhile sha carri richardson came down from a high.....

Mark L
 
Might Richardson have glowed in the dark, no way to remain undetected in Tokyo? Or did the bribed official call to abort mission? Catched her on lettuce is like a dude claiming it was his erectile dysfunction creme that triggered the sensitive test. Just one of this things, right? Now the world feels sorry for her, pot doesn't make you faster, right? Well, if might if you're in agony over something, mental or physical.
I only was under that influence once, second hand, but the bike commute home after was something else. No pain, just hard riding wind. Like cranking up a wind tunnel switch. The scenery flashed bike. Not performance enhancing, huh? I'm old enough to remember the notion that EPO can't be used for sprinters.
Tell a bunch of sprinters there is no way to get faster from pot, but that you didn't actually try. Someone's going to figure out a way.
 
so sha'carri ran way slower at eugene without the weed?.........was the pot just a cover..did it enhance...or fry her mind?

after the race....'i'm the 6th fastest female of ALL time...no-one can take that from me...'
errr...thompson/SAFP DID... by running faster....

so just how have 2 jamiacan runners after competing for years suddenly become noticeably faster?

Mark L
 
Might Richardson have glowed in the dark, no way to remain undetected in Tokyo? Or did the bribed official call to abort mission? Catched her on lettuce is like a dude claiming it was his erectile dysfunction creme that triggered the sensitive test. Just one of this things, right? Now the world feels sorry for her, pot doesn't make you faster, right? Well, if might if you're in agony over something, mental or physical.
I only was under that influence once, second hand, but the bike commute home after was something else. No pain, just hard riding wind. Like cranking up a wind tunnel switch. The scenery flashed bike. Not performance enhancing, huh? I'm old enough to remember the notion that EPO can't be used for sprinters.
Tell a bunch of sprinters there is no way to get faster from pot, but that you didn't actually try. Someone's going to figure out a way.
There was the Canadian snowboarder in the Olypics a few years back. But then pot is just the norm for snowboarders, eh.
 
it was all about trying to stay sane during covid lockdowns. No mention of another other potential enhancements during covid. Goddamn, I guess people just want to overlook PEDs, makes things easier.
I read that article a few days ago and wondered what the hell was going on. First, the pachyderm in the pantry wasn't even mentioned, when obviously it needed to be. But then, when shoes were mentioned, that was just glossed over as if it had no role at all in explaining things. Then - and here my recall of the article may be failing me, I admit that it lost me that easily - the story seemed to be that the old orthodoxy of pacing was being thrown out in favour of time trialling through races, only for the story to more or less dismiss that too. At the end, I really don't know what was meant to be the point of it.
 
I read that article a few days ago and wondered what the hell was going on. First, the pachyderm in the pantry wasn't even mentioned, when obviously it needed to be. But then, when shoes were mentioned, that was just glossed over as if it had no role at all in explaining things. Then - and here my recall of the article may be failing me, I admit that it lost me that easily - the story seemed to be that the old orthodoxy of pacing was being thrown out in favour of time trialling through races, only for the story to more or less dismiss that too. At the end, I really don't know what was meant to be the point of it.
Ah ha ha. The writer definitely ignored the pachyderm!!
 
I read that article a few days ago and wondered what the hell was going on. First, the pachyderm in the pantry wasn't even mentioned, when obviously it needed to be. But then, when shoes were mentioned, that was just glossed over as if it had no role at all in explaining things. Then - and here my recall of the article may be failing me, I admit that it lost me that easily - the story seemed to be that the old orthodoxy of pacing was being thrown out in favour of time trialling through races, only for the story to more or less dismiss that too. At the end, I really don't know what was meant to be the point of it.
To sell Peloton subscriptions?
At one point, he kept himself motivated by attempting to finish first in as many online Peloton group classes as possible.
I enjoyed the article, but it (sadly) had no thesis. The headline was a clickbait.

I also disagree that the effect was apparent in lower levels like high schools. Of course, some records are going to fall every year, but there is really no evidence that this was accelerated by the pandemic.

What is happening at the upper echelons, especially in the distance races was remarkable. But, this was clearly a trend that started well before the Pandemic. Kipchoge's assault on the record book for example. Even on the track, look back to the 2016 olympics women's 10k where a WR and 8 NRs fell. Except for Sifan's brief hold of the WR this summer, all her PBs were from summer 2019 or earlier.

 

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