Doping In Athletics

[Cloxxki]

We can close this thread. Seppelt and Ashenden can find new vocations. Coe is here.
Russians will be banned, western non-German runners will win.

Does he have a son I can wire my belated campaign contribution to?

 

[Savant12]

The Anti-British contingent on here must be fuming right now haha.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

The pro-British contingent on here must be frothing at the waist band right now lololololololol.

 

[Savant12]

Re:

The pro-British contingent on here must be frothing at the waist band right now lololololololol.

Nope, just waiting for the FIFA Presidency then the circle of sport is complete.

 

[Catwhoorg]

Re: Re:

The pro-British contingent on here must be frothing at the waist band right now lololololololol.

Nope, just waiting for the FIFA Presidency then the circle of sport is complete.

Thankfully, there is no serious chance of that,

Platini is the closest realistic prospect.

 

[The Carrot]

Surprisingly, the Grauniad has allowed people to comment of the announcement of Seb Coe's IAAF election victory.

http://www.theguardian.com/global/2015/aug/19/sebastian-coe-elected-iaaf-president-after-beating-sergey-bubka-in-vote#comments

Having read these, very few are complimentary of Coe(some have the usual Guardian anti Tory bias), but many comments could have come straight from the threads in this forum about the hypocrisy and corruption in sport, especially with regards to anti doping. It seems much of the public can see pro sport for what it actually is (a corporate show).

So:
1. Are we (the cynics) getting through to people?
2. Are the people more savvy than many on here give them credit for?
3. Are members of this forum whacking in loads of comments on the Guardian's website?

 

[Dear Wiggo]

4. IAAF is currently covered in mud.

 

[Texeng]

Re:

Surprisingly, the Grauniad has allowed people to comment of the announcement of Seb Coe's IAAF election victory.

http://www.theguardian.com/global/2015/aug/19/sebastian-coe-elected-iaaf-president-after-beating-sergey-bubka-in-vote#comments

Having read these, very few are complimentary of Coe(some have the usual Guardian anti Tory bias), but many comments could have come straight from the threads in this forum about the hypocrisy and corruption in sport, especially with regards to anti doping. It seems much of the public can see pro sport for what it actually is (a corporate show).

So:
1. Are we (the cynics) getting through to people?
2. Are the people more savvy than many on here give them credit for?
3. Are members of this forum whacking in loads of comments on the Guardian's website?

1. Highly unlikely imho that any forum would influence public opinion, especially a specialist one such as this
2. Some of the people are more savvy, a lot don't care (have more important things to be concerned about), a lot just enjoy the spectacle regardless of the issues
3. Some may be but there are other sports fora that cover similar issues and would also contribute

 

[Cramps]

IT begins...
Paula Radcliffe says athletes should not release blood data

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33990503

 

[Cramps]

Paula Radcliffe: I was a clean athlete

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33985487

Video interview quite hard to watch
I was taught that the only time the whites of your eyes appear above the upper circle of your iris is when you are in fear state.

 

[blackcat]

IT begins...
Paula Radcliffe says athletes should not release blood data

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33990503

i thought she said she was releasing her blood testing?

damn liars lie

 

[The Chicken]

She looks absolutely terrified in that interview. I wonder why.

 

[Cramps]

IT begins...
Paula Radcliffe says athletes should not release blood data

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33990503

i thought she said she was releasing her blood testing?

damn liars lie

You are right... she certainly did in 2002 at least
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/specials/european_athletics/2180043.stm

 

[blackcat]

Paula Radcliffe: I was a clean athlete

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33985487

Video interview quite hard to watch
I was taught that the only time the whites of your eyes appear above the upper circle of your iris is when you are in fear state.

yeah, I reckon she stole her eyes out of some grave digging enterprise at halloween. freeking radcliffe scary

when is the next installment of the Scream franchise?

 

[blackcat]

You are right... she certainly did in 2002 at least
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/specials/european_athletics/2180043.stm

Radcliffe, who wears a red ribbon on her vest in every race to protest against drug taking in athletics, said: "It upsets me very much because it is something very important to me.

the lady doth protest too much methinks

 

[fenns]

Seems like Radcliffe decided not to take the opportunity to deny she was one with abnormal bloods.

 

[luckyboy]

Wasn't Coe rumoured as a Conconi client?

 

[Cramps]

A quote from Radcliffe's interview :

Some people have asked me do you regret running that time [world record], because... it's fast, it's extremely fast, and maybe it's looked on with some suspicion. But, no, I don't... because the whole point of my career is to see what I could do, and to get to the end and say that was the best I was capable of doing... So no, I'm proud of it, and I don't regret that.

How could she think viewers would find this compelling?
The only reason she could possibly have to regret this time is if she did something wrong.

 

[Cramps]

The video is about 4 minutes of this

 

[Texeng]

IT begins...
Paula Radcliffe says athletes should not release blood data

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33990503

i thought she said she was releasing her blood testing?

damn liars lie

You are right... she certainly did in 2002 at least
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/specials/european_athletics/2180043.stm

Not sure there is anything in that BBC link about blood tests being released or the more contentious issue of ABP. Merely states that she asked for the results of her doping tests to be revealed (which they were). So maybe not a lie at all?

 

[Põhja Konn]

Re:

Surprisingly, the Grauniad has allowed people to comment of the announcement of Seb Coe's IAAF election victory.

http://www.theguardian.com/global/2015/aug/19/sebastian-coe-elected-iaaf-president-after-beating-sergey-bubka-in-vote#comments

Having read these, very few are complimentary of Coe(some have the usual Guardian anti Tory bias), but many comments could have come straight from the threads in this forum about the hypocrisy and corruption in sport, especially with regards to anti doping. It seems much of the public can see pro sport for what it actually is (a corporate show).

So:
1. Are we (the cynics) getting through to people?
2. Are the people more savvy than many on here give them credit for?
3. Are members of this forum whacking in loads of comments on the Guardian's website?

That is certainly the case. When people actually start to think about something more thoroughly, they can understand what's going on. Its not a rocket science after all. Key thing is getting the masses' attention. There have been enough drug-related big news/scandals in different sports in last few years, that more and more people have started to pay attention.

Will that lead to real and actual change in governing sports and fighting doping? Very unlikely, as far too many influential and powerful people have too much to lose.

On a related note, in a paper version of a local newspaper, an editorial was published today, which went further on the subject of sport federations influence on drug testing. They straightforwardly said that anti-doping authorities becoming completely independent is a necessity if top-level sports want stay credible and an appealing career prospect for future athletes.

As it was published in the paper version of the second-biggest daily newspaper in a small East-European country, it almost certainly won't gather any international attention, but still good to see some journalists caring enough to be able to see the big picture.

 

[Lyon]

The video is about 4 minutes of this

She looks like she is on drugs...

Seriously though, that's just how young/youngish western women look when they really, really, really mean what they say. Looking afraid is the new serious.

 

[buckle]

Paula's got a gig with the beeb coming so ...

I detected a less than flattering presentation of PR. Things might get interesting if more money pressure is applied by the government on auntie.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Re:

Wasn't Coe rumoured as a Conconi client?

The rumor came from a Race Radio tweet. No follow up, no answers to further questions, and nothing related since.

It may be true, but as it stands now, that rumor is fodder for the defenders, as it is so easy to shoot down.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

If you want to avoid micro twitches, forcing your face into a mask is one possible way of doing that