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Oh, and on a different note, I wanted to ask this to the international audience of the forum. I found this facebook page while digging around: a Mexican anti-doping blog/page thing. I used google translate to get the gist (Federation corruption, athlete doping, cover-ups for positives), but I wanted to know were the content falls on the spectrum from tabloid, internet keyboard wizard, or journalism. There are a few interviews and whistleblower stories, and I can't translate the linked documents and images, but just wanted some sense of the tone and validity. Or, if any Mexicans here know its reputation, or the Mexican doping/anti-doping scene

https://www.facebook.com/runnerleaks/

Thanks for any insight.
 
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mrhender said:
Just imagine what would happen if WADA went into World War with a big organization as IAAF?

You are misunderstanding WADA's role. WADA acts at the direction of authorities like sports federations. They have no authority to sanction anyone.

If they were given authority and the incentive to sanction drug cheats, it would be a cold day in hell. If it got cold in hell, yes, LOTS of positives.
 
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DirtyWorks said:
mrhender said:
Just imagine what would happen if WADA went into World War with a big organization as IAAF?

You are misunderstanding WADA's role. WADA acts at the direction of authorities like sports federations. They have no authority to sanction anyone.

If they were given authority and the incentive to sanction drug cheats, it would be a cold day in hell. If it got cold in hell, yes, LOTS of positives.

I never implied any sanctions on drug cheats taken by WADA.

Perhaps I did not articulate my point properly, or you interpreted my post in away it was not meant.

Either way let me clarify that I was making a point about the fine line WADA must walk.
Certainly not their ability to sanction athletes.
 
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Seems the standard response from those in power is to do the following,

Richard Ings ‏@ringsau 2 hours ago
When this IAAF scandal first broke, Lord Coe castigated the media, denigrated the scientists and capitulated responsibility.

Don't forget

Generally a good sign they are deep up to their necks in it.

Let's hope Diack throws them all under the bus......
 
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Today's report is supposed to be 'a game changer'. I'm not counting on it. As long as there are fans who want to believe, there will be media people who will exploit them and sports people who will exploit both parties. There's been lots of sporting scandals over the years and nothing ever seems to really change. Probably not a good time to be a drugs cheat hovering just outside the world's top 20 right now.
 
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AJ101 said:
gooner said:
Paris- French authorities have charged former IAAF president Lamine Diack with corruption linked to covering up doping cases, a legal source said on Wednesday.

The 82-year-old Senegalese, who gave up as International Association of Athletics Federation (IAAF) president in August, was charged in Paris on Monday, the source said.

His advisor, Habib Cisse, a lawyer, was also charged. A doctor linked with the federation's anti-doping measures was being questioned in custody, the source said.

http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/Athletics/International/Ex-IAAF-chief-Lamine-Diack-arrested-20151104

And there's old Seb Coe on his first day at work saying suspicions of IAAF collusion were completely wrong http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33985484
I hope he's on ITV news sitting next to Paula for his next interview
Knowing what we now know, this interview with Coe is rather insightful as to his integrity. He certainly doesn't appear to be a total idiot, therefore I am assuming his is as corrupt as his ex-president.
 
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Oh, and on a different note, I wanted to ask this to the international audience of the forum. I found this facebook page while digging around: a Mexican anti-doping blog/page thing. I used google translate to get the gist (Federation corruption, athlete doping, cover-ups for positives), but I wanted to know were the content falls on the spectrum from tabloid, internet keyboard wizard, or journalism. There are a few interviews and whistleblower stories, and I can't translate the linked documents and images, but just wanted some sense of the tone and validity. Or, if any Mexicans here know its reputation, or the Mexican doping/anti-doping scene

https://www.facebook.com/runnerleaks/

Thanks for any insight.

Does appear a bit tabloidish in some of it's content, but tabloids are generally geared to the masses and this, isn't. They do suggest they have contact with athletes who want to speak out, about corruption in Mexican sport, and they claim to give a platform to them.
 
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The Hitch said:
More Strides than Rides said:
Oh, and on a different note, I wanted to ask this to the international audience of the forum. I found this facebook page while digging around: a Mexican anti-doping blog/page thing. I used google translate to get the gist (Federation corruption, athlete doping, cover-ups for positives), but I wanted to know were the content falls on the spectrum from tabloid, internet keyboard wizard, or journalism. There are a few interviews and whistleblower stories, and I can't translate the linked documents and images, but just wanted some sense of the tone and validity. Or, if any Mexicans here know its reputation, or the Mexican doping/anti-doping scene

https://www.facebook.com/runnerleaks/

Thanks for any insight.

Does appear a bit tabloidish in some of it's content, but tabloids are generally geared to the masses and this, isn't. They do suggest they have contact with athletes who want to speak out, about corruption in Mexican sport, and they claim to give a platform to them.

Columbia cycling shistelblower has recently put out a significant story
 
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MartinGT said:
Thanks Martin. That is a good article.

I thought the guardian was meant to be progressive though. So much blind dumb nationalism in the comments section. Even looks like Vickers might have taken his accounts there.

Great Britain is probably the least corrupt least cheaty nation is sport there is. To the point that we could be described as pretty naive. There are countries which can't afford the medical specialists to do it very well. We can, but we don't. There are countries where the expectations of success are low enough so they don't feel the pressure to cheat. We have high expectations and yet, in general, as a nation we don't. And there are nations where cheating "legardemain" is culturally more acceptable than the UK. Being caught here is to be shamed.
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