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mrhender said:
Just imagine what would happen if WADA went into World War with a big organization as IAAF?

Who would survive?

What would other major interests not do to protect their interests, power and monetary flow.

I don't necessarily think WADA and Reedie are ill-intended. Rather they are realists and try to do what they can to influence sports to moderate "acceptaple" behavior not causing media storms.

On the other hand, WADA has to maintain it's legitimacy and has to prove their relevance from time to time.

Let's not kid ourselves, People at WADA may be anti-doping to the core (most of them) but those in real power are rather politicians and carreer oriented much like in the private sector. They have a job and salary to protect, so no reason to go full genius on much bigger and powerful institutions.

I think WADA will back Seb Coe, and that Diack and a couple of Russians may well be what providees them to acheive two goals at once.
WADA hasn't really shown to have an agenda, it's hard to compare. They're not looking to expand their market presence, reach international audiences, or sell event participation to youth.

They're not trying to "win" anything. As an organization, they're tempered, and from what I've seen, content to be consistent in their limited authority and responsibility.

Even the most intense WADA investigation into the IAAF would still be a boring, apathetic investigation solely into charges against their code. They're not interested in being the catalyst for a cultural, institutional, or identity change, have nothing to gain by stretching their authority and responsibility, and don't have the money and political savvy to try.

Compare that to a hypothetical "war" between the IOC and IAAF, where both parties have the motivation and means to take a bigger slice for themselves. (That's a war that I would want to see, with each side knowing where all the closets full of skeletons are.) It would never happen, the two are symbiotic, but just an example to contrast with WADA.
 
Oh, and on a different note, I wanted to ask this to the international audience of the forum. I found this facebook page while digging around: a Mexican anti-doping blog/page thing. I used google translate to get the gist (Federation corruption, athlete doping, cover-ups for positives), but I wanted to know were the content falls on the spectrum from tabloid, internet keyboard wizard, or journalism. There are a few interviews and whistleblower stories, and I can't translate the linked documents and images, but just wanted some sense of the tone and validity. Or, if any Mexicans here know its reputation, or the Mexican doping/anti-doping scene

https://www.facebook.com/runnerleaks/

Thanks for any insight.
 
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mrhender said:
Just imagine what would happen if WADA went into World War with a big organization as IAAF?
You are misunderstanding WADA's role. WADA acts at the direction of authorities like sports federations. They have no authority to sanction anyone.

If they were given authority and the incentive to sanction drug cheats, it would be a cold day in hell. If it got cold in hell, yes, LOTS of positives.
 
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DirtyWorks said:
mrhender said:
Just imagine what would happen if WADA went into World War with a big organization as IAAF?
You are misunderstanding WADA's role. WADA acts at the direction of authorities like sports federations. They have no authority to sanction anyone.

If they were given authority and the incentive to sanction drug cheats, it would be a cold day in hell. If it got cold in hell, yes, LOTS of positives.
I never implied any sanctions on drug cheats taken by WADA.

Perhaps I did not articulate my point properly, or you interpreted my post in away it was not meant.

Either way let me clarify that I was making a point about the fine line WADA must walk.
Certainly not their ability to sanction athletes.
 
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Seems the standard response from those in power is to do the following,

Richard Ings ‏@ringsau 2 hours ago
When this IAAF scandal first broke, Lord Coe castigated the media, denigrated the scientists and capitulated responsibility.

Don't forget
Generally a good sign they are deep up to their necks in it.

Let's hope Diack throws them all under the bus......
 
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Today's report is supposed to be 'a game changer'. I'm not counting on it. As long as there are fans who want to believe, there will be media people who will exploit them and sports people who will exploit both parties. There's been lots of sporting scandals over the years and nothing ever seems to really change. Probably not a good time to be a drugs cheat hovering just outside the world's top 20 right now.
 
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wads was here

Benotti69 said:
WADA appears to be not much more than PR.
.......i don't feel that wada are the problem.........they set the rules fairly free of

commercial incentive ( if rules too stringent wada would be replaced ) problem

is sporting orginisations/ doping agencies not implementing those rules with

true diligence

Mark L
 
AJ101 said:
gooner said:
Paris- French authorities have charged former IAAF president Lamine Diack with corruption linked to covering up doping cases, a legal source said on Wednesday.

The 82-year-old Senegalese, who gave up as International Association of Athletics Federation (IAAF) president in August, was charged in Paris on Monday, the source said.

His advisor, Habib Cisse, a lawyer, was also charged. A doctor linked with the federation's anti-doping measures was being questioned in custody, the source said.
http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/Athletics/International/Ex-IAAF-chief-Lamine-Diack-arrested-20151104
And there's old Seb Coe on his first day at work saying suspicions of IAAF collusion were completely wrong http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33985484
I hope he's on ITV news sitting next to Paula for his next interview
Knowing what we now know, this interview with Coe is rather insightful as to his integrity. He certainly doesn't appear to be a total idiot, therefore I am assuming his is as corrupt as his ex-president.
 
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More Strides than Rides said:
Oh, and on a different note, I wanted to ask this to the international audience of the forum. I found this facebook page while digging around: a Mexican anti-doping blog/page thing. I used google translate to get the gist (Federation corruption, athlete doping, cover-ups for positives), but I wanted to know were the content falls on the spectrum from tabloid, internet keyboard wizard, or journalism. There are a few interviews and whistleblower stories, and I can't translate the linked documents and images, but just wanted some sense of the tone and validity. Or, if any Mexicans here know its reputation, or the Mexican doping/anti-doping scene

https://www.facebook.com/runnerleaks/

Thanks for any insight.
Does appear a bit tabloidish in some of it's content, but tabloids are generally geared to the masses and this, isn't. They do suggest they have contact with athletes who want to speak out, about corruption in Mexican sport, and they claim to give a platform to them.
 

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