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Maybe the organisers are also playing tricks with the clock. Because there were unusually strong times in the semifinals.
Michael Johnson was suggesting the same thing on Twitter, but the whole of Nigeria came down on him like bricks. He quoted one of the athletes saying: "We are all very shocked at the times, considering we didn't think we were running very fast"
 
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I know that the European championships are not as competitive as a Worlds or Olympics or even the Golden league, but the Germans seem to have made quite the turnaround since Oregon, which was barely a month ago.
 
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I know that the European championships are not as competitive as a Worlds or Olympics or even the Golden league, but the Germans seem to have made quite the turnaround since Oregon, which was barely a month ago.
Yeah, but the overall improvement was imo not that big and they were probably always supposed to peak for their home EC and not for the WC.

Mujinga Kambundji becoming word class in her late 20s/at the age of 30 on the other hand is one of those things that is actually a bit of a red flag for me.
 
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I've always wondered about Marita Koch's 47.60 in the Women's 400m in 1985.
Considering she also had the 4th, 5th, 6th and 8th fastest times of all time it doesn't seem too outlandish (it was very f'ing fast though, even for a dope monster such as her).
 
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Considering she also had the 4th, 5th, 6th and 8th fastest times of all time it doesn't seem too outlandish (it was very f'ing fast though, even for a dope monster such as her).

I wonder if the timing equipment malfunctioned as it was run in Canberra, Australia which never had a reputation as a fast track.
 
Considering she also had the 4th, 5th, 6th and 8th fastest times of all time it doesn't seem too outlandish (it was very f'ing fast though, even for a dope monster such as her).
IMO it wasn't just about the program aids taken then that drove the times. Their federation had so little regard for the athlete's health the dosages of "non-detectable" drugs proved fatal to the lifespan of almost every E German and Russian athletes of the era. The fact that she's still alive is testimony to her unique abilities and probably was stronger than her competition, too.
 
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Australian 800m runner Peter Bol, who finished 4th at the Tokyo Olympics, has tested positive to EPO in his A-sample.
He is denying he has done anything wrong, like they all do, and is waiting for his B-sample result.

I just don’t understand how people can see this stuff and think the people finishing ahead of them are clean.
 
Australian 800m runner Peter Bol, who finished 4th at the Tokyo Olympics, has tested positive to EPO in his A-sample.
He is denying he has done anything wrong, like they all do, and is waiting for his B-sample result.

Yes like they all do. But of course the three who finished ahead of Bol in Tokyo are clean. Sad all round.
 
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Australian 800m runner Peter Bol, who finished 4th at the Tokyo Olympics, has tested positive to EPO in his A-sample.
He is denying he has done anything wrong, like they all do, and is waiting for his B-sample result.

Maybe he will try the it-was-in-my-meat excuse, except that the only meaty creatures with synthetic EPO in their system would be other pro cyclists or seriously ill patients (kidney failure, bone marrow disease) so let’s hope he doesn’t go there!
 
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Maybe he will try the it-was-in-my-meat excuse, except that the only meaty creatures with synthetic EPO in their system would be other pro cyclists or seriously ill patients (kidney failure, bone marrow disease) so let’s hope he doesn’t go there!

He might... but then he'd get into a whole different sort of legal issues:
"Okay, so you didn't deliberately ingest EPO, but... you're just a frikkin' canibal instead!"
 
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He might... but then he'd get into a whole different sort of legal issues:
"Okay, so you didn't deliberately ingest EPO, but... you're just a frikkin' canibal instead!"

Apparently, the B sample returned an "Atypical finding", so Bol is in limbo: unsuspended but not cleared. According to an article in the Feb 23 New York Times, Erik Boye, a Norwegian scientist, is criticizing the anti-doping agencies for relying on a allegedly fallible visual inspection of the bar densities returned by the test results instead of machine measurement.
 
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Apparently, the B sample returned an "Atypical finding", so Bol is in limbo: unsuspended but not cleared. According to an article in the Feb 23 New York Times, Erik Boye, a Norwegian scientist, is criticizing the anti-doping agencies for relying on a allegedly fallible visual inspection of the bar densities returned by the test results instead of machine measurement.

Bol is completely in the clear - The interpretation of results for EPO tends to be subjective and I suggest that Bol's A sample may have been negative or atypical in another labaratory - And the back story is that Bol was to be selected as the Young Australian of the Year, so this why SIA and AA publically released the results of the A Sample which should not happen.
 
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Wow, somehow I hadn’t noticed his excuse before—that crazy but of course we’re getting used to that with lip v balms, burritos, and the ever-popular “supplements.” If this was not the team but an outside clinic or MD they should sue him for slander.
 
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Not bad from a random college assistant coach

One can only wonder what improvement can EPO give in middle distance running (like 1500-3000 m). Efforts of this duration are near VO2max and that's when blood doping should give the biggest relative gains.
 
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Three distance WRs in Paris last night. Ok, ingebritsen's was from 2 miles which is raced not that often, but still not too bad.

Stadiums now generate the constant tailwinds that have propelled the world tour peloton since 2020?
 
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Three distance WRs in Paris last night. Ok, ingebritsen's was from 2 miles which is raced not that often, but still not too bad.

Stadiums now generate the constant tailwinds that have propelled the world tour peloton since 2020?
Should be emphasized that Ingebritsen's feat wasn't like WR in 200m hurdles. flat 150m or 25000m, which have (likely) also a slightly "lowish" quality WR because not competed that often.

With Ingebritsen's 2-mile speed, his 3000m time would've been almost exactly 7:21.89, only 1.22 seconds slower than Daniel Komen's world record of 7:20.67, which has been considered one of the "strongest" world records ever. Perhaps he will be the needed 0.3 % faster if he tries the 3000m WR when he has 7 % less to run.
 
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Ingebritsen is definitely on the sauce. He beat the two mile record by 4 seconds. Komen’s record in the 2 mile and 3000m are one of the best distance track records of all time. Look at the names that are on the list of top 25 names for that 2000m. Ridiculous.