Doping in other sports?

[Barkintheeye]

Casts a revealing and bad light on an upheld and pampered sport. It should be clear to all that soccer is one of the more (if not the most) doping tainted sports of all. Disgusting.

 

[Rob5091]

He is constantly injured and barely played 100 minutes last season while being one of the highest earning players at Juventus. Maybe this is a chance for them to get rid of that clown easily...

Btw, Juventus has already left the Super League

Wonder if he has an anti-doping clause in his contract?

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Wonder if he has an anti-doping clause in his contract?

It would surprise me. Football is very interested in it's "there is no doping" image, so that would cast a strange light. But most importantly: Footballers are extremly powerfull in negotiations, especially superstars, I doubt any of them would agree to such a clause if they don't absolutly have to.
Considering that football is probably rather unhinged in doping it would be an interesting move to make your players sign such a clause and then go on and put them on a programm if needed.

 

[Sciatic]

Casts a revealing and bad light on an upheld and pampered sport. It should be clear to all that soccer is one of the more (if not the most) doping tainted sports of all. Disgusting.

Could be, but I don’t know how anything could top the NFL

 

[nayr497]

As an American, I think most average-to-committed NFL fans knows they're doping and just doesn't care.

I'm amazed how blind tennis fans are! Djokovic wins his 24th and comment after comment is that he has perfected his diet and eats right! C'mon now folks. The anti vaxxer so concerned with his body...

Him pulling out his Kobe shirt was just the cherry on top to sports fans blinded by adulation.

 

[Aimar16]

The anti vaxxer so concerned with his body...

Your sentence proves that he is concerned about his body...

 

[Barkintheeye]

Could be, but I don’t know how anything could top the NFL

Unfortunately you’re probably right about that. NBA, NHL and NFL are possibly even more plagued by widespread malpractices and a complete lack of control

 

[slim charles]

If I'm not mistaken, the doctor who was implicated in a Juve doping Scandal of the 90s, Agricola, has been working at the club again for the last few years.
Coincidence, probably.

 

[awavey]

As an American, I think most average-to-committed NFL fans knows they're doping and just doesn't care.

I'm amazed how blind tennis fans are! Djokovic wins his 24th and comment after comment is that he has perfected his diet and eats right! C'mon now folks. The anti vaxxer so concerned with his body...

Him pulling out his Kobe shirt was just the cherry on top to sports fans blinded by adulation.

but I think thats the point NFL fans kind of accept its something that happens, football fans are much like tennis fans, theyll point to the no major drugs bust as evidence theres no doping, and even point to the minor players getting busted, more often than not for recreational drugs as evidence the testing regime works. whilst totally ignoring some of the amazing recovery ability between games their favourite players have

 

[Nick2413]

but I think thats the point NFL fans kind of accept its something that happens, football fans are much like tennis fans, theyll point to the no major drugs bust as evidence theres no doping, and even point to the minor players getting busted, more often than not for recreational drugs as evidence the testing regime works. whilst totally ignoring some of the amazing recovery ability between games their favourite players have

NFL it’s so visually obvious most accept it, but since it’s harder to see with the naked eye in tennis and soccer/football people are more gullible. And those sports tend to be very skill based so people downplay the relevance of doping.

 

[BullsFan22]

I am glad Novak is still killing it and sticking it to the ‘haters,’ but any suggestions of him being ‘clean’ are a bit outlandish.

 

[Aimar16]

I am glad Novak is still killing it and sticking it to the ‘haters,’ but any suggestions of him being ‘clean’ are a bit outlandish.

I doubt he's on a different program than the rest of the top 15.. Nole is the undoubted GOAT, with a positive record against Nadal and Federer, and you can't out-dope them. His skill set and mental strength are ahead of the rest.

Women's tennis is much dirtier imo, since the quality is much lower than men's. Which greatly increases PED efficiency... and helps donkeys win matches.

Speaking of very dirty american sports leagues in the comments above, the daughter of american oligarch Pegula (who owns NFL and NHL teams in Buffalo) magically became a top women's tennis player at 28. Of course her coach is the same as the biggest cheaters in sports history, the Williams sisters

 

[Rob5091]

The Pogba positive test - up to 4 years ban, but I'm guessing an appeal, a fine, a short ban.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...o-four-years-after-failing-drug-test-in-italy
Paul Pogba could be banned from football for up to four years after testing positive for testosterone.

The test revealed elevated levels of testosterone, a hormone that can increase an athletes’ endurance, meaning the 30-year-old’s second sample will also need to be examined. Pogba has three days to produce a counter-analysis of the result, according to reports in Italy. If found guilty of doping, the France international could be suspended for between two and four years.

“In acceptance of the instance proposed by the National Anti-doping Prosecutor, it has provided for the provisional suspension of the athlete Paul Labile Pogba,” NADO Italia said in a statement. The tribunal said Pogba had violated anti-doping rules when they found the prohibited substance “non-endogenous testosterone metabolites”, adding that the results were “consistent with the exogenous origin of the target compounds”.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Halep banned for four years for doping offences

Two-time Grand Slam champion Simona Halep is banned for four years following breaches of tennis doping rules.

www.bbc.com

A Big Fish

 

[awavey]

The Pogba positive test - up to 4 years ban, but I'm guessing an appeal, a fine, a short ban.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...o-four-years-after-failing-drug-test-in-italy
Paul Pogba could be banned from football for up to four years after testing positive for testosterone.

The test revealed elevated levels of testosterone, a hormone that can increase an athletes’ endurance, meaning the 30-year-old’s second sample will also need to be examined. Pogba has three days to produce a counter-analysis of the result, according to reports in Italy. If found guilty of doping, the France international could be suspended for between two and four years.

“In acceptance of the instance proposed by the National Anti-doping Prosecutor, it has provided for the provisional suspension of the athlete Paul Labile Pogba,” NADO Italia said in a statement. The tribunal said Pogba had violated anti-doping rules when they found the prohibited substance “non-endogenous testosterone metabolites”, adding that the results were “consistent with the exogenous origin of the target compounds”.

His agent released a curious statement, which may simply be a mistranslation, but she has said in effect Pogba "never wanted to break the rules".

Which might imply all manner of things, but a different take on the usual athletes response

But first game of the season too, and was an unused sub, what are the chances ?

 

[Rob5091]

Halep banned for four years for doping offences

Two-time Grand Slam champion Simona Halep is banned for four years following breaches of tennis doping rules.

www.bbc.com

A Big Fish

https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/66789732
Halep tested positive for the use of roxadustat at last year's US Open.

She was also found guilty of using an unspecified prohibited substance or method in 2022 after irregularities were found in her biological passport.

The tribunal accepted Halep's argument she had taken a contaminated supplement, but decided that would not have resulted in the concentration of roxadustat found in her urine sample.

Roxadustat is an anti-anaemia drug which stimulates the production of red blood cells in the body. (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxadustat)

The panel also stated they had no reason to doubt the unanimous "strong opinion" reached by three independent experts that "likely doping" was the explanation for the irregularities in her biological passport.

Halep, who won the French Open in 2018 and Wimbledon the following year, is the highest-profile tennis player to fail a drugs test since Maria Sharapova in 2016.

She has won 24 WTA tour singles titles and earned £32.2m ($40.2m) in prize money and was ranked number one in the world in 2017 and 2018.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Halep banned for four years for doping offences

Two-time Grand Slam champion Simona Halep is banned for four years following breaches of tennis doping rules.

www.bbc.com

A Big Fish

a tennis player actually getting banned? One can only imagine how blatant it must've been.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Big Paul is wheeling out one of the old classics and going down the 'food supplement' route.

 

[Aimar16]

Pogba, all the fault of a supplement bought in USA recommended by a friend

The drug was allegedly recommended by a doctor friend, unrelated to Juve. In the event of a confirmed positive result, the club can ask for termination

It was all the fault of a supplement, recommended by a doctor friend, unrelated to Juventus, and bought in USA, where there are different rules on doping. This could be the cause of Paul Pogba's testosterone positivity, which was detected after the Juventus player's urine tests at the end of Udinese-Juventus on 20 August, the first day of the 2023-24 championship. It would therefore have been a slight error on the part of the French midfielder, who would have taken the doping substance by mistake.

A carelessness that risks costing him dearly, because now Pogba is suspended pending the counter-analysis, which will have to confirm the doping positive, and if this happens, his career and future with Juventus is at risk. According to an initial reconstruction, Pogba told Juventus doctors yesterday that he had taken substances not agreed with the Juventus medical staff. Juve was therefore unaware of everything and now it will be up to the player to prove his non-intentionality, which in any case will not prevent him from being disqualified but could soften the sanction (which can go up to 4 years). Today was Pogba's first day off the pitch: he cannot train during the suspension.

His agent Rafaela Pimenta is already studying the defensive line, in the meantime he has three days to ask for the counter-analysis. In the case of a positive result, Juve will be able to ask for the termination of his contract: The Octopus is bound to Juve until 2026 with a very onerous salary (8 million plus 2 million in bonuses). For the Bianconeri, this would be a nice saving, also considering the player's low minutes, who is often injured.

Pogba, tutta colpa di un integratore comprato in America consigliato da un amico

Il farmaco sarebbe stato consigliato da un medico amico, estraneo alla Juve. In caso di positività accertata, il club può chiedere la risoluzione

www.gazzetta.it

 

[BullsFan22]

Yet Serena Williams can dope for 20+ years, unscathed

 

[nayr497]

a tennis player actually getting banned? One can only imagine how blatant it must've been.

I really am in awe at how most tennis fans are blind/turn a blind eye to the PED issue in the sport, but even one other person understanding what is going on makes me feel much, much better.

So, thank you!

 

[nayr497]

Yet Serena Williams can dope for 20+ years, unscathed

Thank you! If you dare mention this, you're a misogynist or a racist, and I'm neither. I just realize you're not staying on top of a global sport for 20+ years because you train harder and cut sugar out of your diet...

 

[BullsFan22]

Thank you! If you dare mention this, you're a misogynist or a racist, and I'm neither. I just realize you're not staying on top of a global sport for 20+ years because you train harder and cut sugar out of your diet...

Personally, I was a fan of the Williams sisters early on, but Serena’s bratty attitude put me off later on. Plus her avoiding the testers in her ‘panic room,’ the TUE’s, threatening the line judge (getting defaulted), making herself out to be a victim in everything…probably a lot of roid rage going on.

 

[Rob5091]

Equine doping - “quite unprecedented” - from the Emerald Isle -
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...positive-in-irish-doping-scandal-horse-racing
(QUOTE!)
Luke Comer, the billionaire co-founder of Comer Group, one of Britain and Ireland’s largest property developers, has had his trainer’s licence suspended for three years by the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (IHRB) after 12 of his horses tested positive for anabolic steroids in October and November 2021.

Comer was found to be in breach of Ireland’s anti-doping rules after a nine-day hearing in front of the IHRB’s referrals committee in May, details of which emerged on Thursday.

The doping scandal, which the committee described as “quite unprecedented” in Ireland, emerged after a hair sample from Comer’s He Knows No Fear tested positive for the anabolic agents methandienone and methyltestosterone after finishing fourth of 12 runners in a Listed race at Leopardstown in October 2021.

Investigators then conducted out-of-competition tests on horses at Comer’s stable and found 11 more positives. All the horses concerned have been banned from racing for two years.

Comer, who told the hearing that he “only spends about three months of the year in Ireland”, denies that he or his staff were involved in administering steroids to the 12 horses.

He also told the hearing that he believed hay fertilised with contaminated pig slurry could have caused the positive tests.

However, the panel decided that this was “unlikely”, and while it did not conclude that the steroids had been administered deliberately, it held Comer, the licensed trainer, liable for the presence of prohibited at all times (PAAT) substances in the hair samples.

In addition to the three-year suspension of his licence, Comer, who is one of the wealthiest businessmen in Europe, was fined €5,000 for each of the dozen breaches of the anti-doping rules.

He was also fined €5,000 after telling the committee that he had “an unblemished record” as a trainer despite having “multiple breaches of the Rules in the past”, and faces a legal bill of around £644,000 after being ordered to pay 80% of the IHRB’s costs. (END QUOTE!)

What an a-hole!

 

[Axel Hangleck]

He won't be the only one in UK & Irish horse racing who has used doping products........If cyclists improved the way some horses do, the alarm bells would be going off on here.