sometimes i think Quigley is better and sometimes i think he isn't. Kirby's yelling is offensive but Quigley calls sprint finishes like they're still in the neutral zone.
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The Hitch said:This. I don't get the hate on Quigley. Compared to Kirby he's a cycling expert.
argyllflyer said:I would strongly disagree with that - DQ seems to get his knowledge from wikipedia whereas Carlton can converse and recall about events from many years ago to engage the pundit.
The other (and perhaps more important) thing that separates them is DQ's dreary delivery is drained of any enthusiasm or passion and in a long race like MSR or one lacking action, the effect is soporific. People need to be engaged by what is being said. Bored and annoyed is worse than annoyed.
It's sad that Harmon and Eurosport have parted company (and it has been obvious this was the case since the winter when he revealed he hadn't been contacted by them, meanwhile the other commentators confirmed their forward bookings on twitter) but life goes on.
The king is dead - long live King Carlton! (or failing that Rob Hatch).
Swiss Tony said:Leave it out, Kirby the most annoying, irritating, grating voice on TV, constantly wrong I find him an embarrassment, just cant listen to him anymore and have for the 3rd day had to watch without sound, shame as I appreciate Backstedt's contribution. I know Duffield, Harmon, Liggett and Sherwin got and get lots wrong, but at least they didn't and don't spoil my viewing.
EUROSPORT please rid me of this clown Kirby (for your channel I pay way over the odds using a UK box abroad) he just ruins my cycling enjoyment when involved.
Bumeington said:Who's on E3 right now? Dan Lloyd and Rob Hatch? They're doing an excellent job, not too excited that Thomas is in the lead group and praising Devolder's chasing.
The fact that there was more chat about Ben Swift's 3rd in MSR than the winner was really annoying!
Mellow Velo said:Rider identification, which to me is the most important qualification for a commentator is uniformly shocking.
Slow at best; today we regularly had the "name of team" rider does this or that.
Best of all was Quigley calling Sep Vanmarcke, Robert Wagner.
With the constant ad breaks, I ended up staying with Sporza, which is so far superior, it's like comparing OPQS to Belkin.
Armchair cyclist said:No number was visible; no other riders were in shot for perspective as to whether the rider was 6'1" or 6'3"; they wear identical kits; no on screen information as to where the footage was in relation to which group on the road; stationary, so no analysis of riding style possible; image had been on screen for a very short time. Why was this such an appalling error? If it is intolerable to identify a rider simply by name of the team, and there is such sparse evidence, is an educated guess that unreasonable?
Making rider identification something that can be done with greater confidence is a service to viewers that the sport really needs to look at.
I agree. The main problem is that they don't show (even) more races.RedheadDane said:RE Patriotic Commentary:
The Danish batch are generally pretty good at being neutral. They'll do a quick run-through of potential Danish riders at the start of the broadcasting, and maybe cheer a bit extra for the Danes, but it's not like they only talk about the Danes.
Wouldn't leave them much to talk about anways...
RE Rider Identification:
I'd say our guys are fairly good. For more obscure riders they may use the "Rider from Team X" way, but if it's more 'important' riders they generally get it.
However, the prize has to go to Rolf Sørensen, commentating for TV2. Seriously, I've frequently seen him identify a rider even though the camera was only showing parts of his legs.
TourOfTexas said:Those are on the sleeves. I can't find a team that has a sponsor on the top of the shoulder. Make the number near the neck.