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Pretty certain Carlton Kirby mentioned during the final stage in Turkey that Hatch and Kelly are doing the Giro.
Beacon Hill said:
Yeah I've seen Rob Hatch mention he was doing it but hadn't seen the co-commentator confirmed, though Sean does all three grand tours and little else (bar P-N and the odd classic) for Eurosport.
Not sure Vesica's point - I updated commentators for Tour de Yorkshire and the Dowsett hour.
I'm assuming Eurosport will go with last year's allocation for the busy week ahead - Kirby otherwise engaged in Italy, Hatch for Giro, Stephens for California, Quigley for Quatre Jours... and Harris-Bass for Azerbaijan.
He said yesterday that he was there 'a few days ago' - I think he was there filming for GCN ahead of the first stage but then flew back to London to take over from Brian Smith.
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I see from the stage thread that those watching live coverage were very unhappy with the Italian live pictures dwelling unduly on a stricken Pozzovivo. By contrast, the Eurosport evening highlights showed nothing until he was in an ambulance, and some reassurance was possible for anyone who had not previously read updates on his condition. Good edit.
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The RCS 3min package highlights seemed to find shots I didn't see in the live broadcast which seemed a bit distasteful. You've 3 minutes to summarise the day and manage to get in 3 shots of a rider (a) going down, (b) lying possibly dead (for all we knew at the time) in a pool of blood and (c) being put into an ambulance looking terrible. I felt sick watching the coverage live and it was no better repeated. Hope to never see it again. BBC's Matt Slater, who is on-site I believe, made a facebook post that suggested an 'experienced' commentator had a go at the producer about the footage used during the stage. I assume this was Kirby. His tweet yesterday seems to back that up:
Agree on Matt Stephens / Rob Hatch combo - I generally like Matt as lead or summariser. Good versatility!
Armchair cyclist said:
The RCS 3min package highlights seemed to find shots I didn't see in the live broadcast which seemed a bit distasteful. You've 3 minutes to summarise the day and manage to get in 3 shots of a rider (a) going down, (b) lying possibly dead (for all we knew at the time) in a pool of blood and (c) being put into an ambulance looking terrible. I felt sick watching the coverage live and it was no better repeated. Hope to never see it again. BBC's Matt Slater, who is on-site I believe, made a facebook post that suggested an 'experienced' commentator had a go at the producer about the footage used during the stage. I assume this was Kirby. His tweet yesterday seems to back that up:
Agree on Matt Stephens / Rob Hatch combo - I generally like Matt as lead or summariser. Good versatility!
I recommend to watch Rai internet coverage, they have Diretta cam + 2 moto cams + 2 heli cams live.Its awesome, and esp for mounatain stages it will be useful.
After few days you'll understand those italians cycling words
After few days you'll understand those italians cycling words
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I dont believe it either. Matt Stephens may be decent but that other guy is insanely boring. At least Carlton had passion!
mariposa said:
I dont believe it either. Matt Stephens may be decent but that other guy is insanely boring. At least Carlton had passion!
I do not subscribe to Eurosport and after seeing their coverage via 'Steephill' on my computer, I have no desire to ever subscribe. I'm not sure who is providing the main commentary but he is awful! He insists on putting on a false 'foreign' accent when pronouncing riders' names and places en route. He sounds ridiculous - rather like the policeman in the BBC comedy 'allo 'allo! I dialled up the Italian stream and not only were the pictures crystal clear but the Italian commentary (which I did not understand) was easier to listen to than the Eurospeak.
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Rob Hatch, and he'd claim it was the actual pronunciation rather than an anglicised version of it. Give me that than for arguments sake some football commentator pronouncing James Rodriguez the way it reads like what happened in the World Cup.
Celeste said:
Rob Hatch, and he'd claim it was the actual pronunciation rather than an anglicised version of it. Give me that than for arguments sake some football commentator pronouncing James Rodriguez the way it reads like what happened in the World Cup.
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Hatch is ridiculous and impossible to listen to ...its not pronunciation ...its an exaggerated accent and its so annoying ...I cancelled my Eurosport sub because of it ...I have also pointed it out to him but he wasn't having any of it
What makes it ridiculous
He only does it for Italian & Spanish riders and a few French but not German, Dutch etc
He still manages to pronounce many riders names incorrectly - non Italians/Spanish
He forgets to do it when the action is on but does it again when things are slow. when action is on he reverts to his Yorkshire accent and Formolo is no longer FOOOORRRMOOOOLOOOOOO
He says its about pronunciation but its about exaggeration and showing off. Like his pronuncation of Sinatra or Tenerife on Monday
No one but a pompous eejit would talk like he does ...he is trying to be something he is not
I have an ear for accents and music and I cannot listen to him ever again...It like a dog listening to a high pitch whistle
#argyllflyer said:
Hatch is ridiculous and impossible to listen to ...its not pronunciation ...its an exaggerated accent and its so annoying ...I cancelled my Eurosport sub because of it ...I have also pointed it out to him but he wasn't having any of it
What makes it ridiculous
He only does it for Italian & Spanish riders and a few French but not German, Dutch etc
He still manages to pronounce many riders names incorrectly - non Italians/Spanish
He forgets to do it when the action is on but does it again when things are slow. when action is on he reverts to his Yorkshire accent and Formolo is no longer FOOOORRRMOOOOLOOOOOO
He says its about pronunciation but its about exaggeration and showing off. Like his pronuncation of Sinatra or Tenerife on Monday
No one but a pompous eejit would talk like he does ...he is trying to be something he is not
I have an ear for accents and music and I cannot listen to him ever again...It like a dog listening to a high pitch whistle
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When the revolution comes people that prefer Carlton Kirby to Rob Hatch will be the first against the wall.
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I can take the slightly over-exaggerated pronunciation. Least he's trying. Indeed, it's better than Matt Stephens and his maGlia rose-a. That 'g' drives me mad. Otherwise I like MS. Carlton Kirby is…an acquired taste I haven't yet got.
What I can't stand is the Sky obsession of many of the Eurosport team. MS and RH aren't too bad thus far, but CK is so terrible, I almost cancelled my subscription. When the action really hots up, I shouldn't be surprised to hear more about Froome not being in the Giro or what the racing all means for Froome in the Tour or something, rather than what's actually going on in the race.
HelloDolly said:
I can take the slightly over-exaggerated pronunciation. Least he's trying. Indeed, it's better than Matt Stephens and his maGlia rose-a. That 'g' drives me mad. Otherwise I like MS. Carlton Kirby is…an acquired taste I haven't yet got.
What I can't stand is the Sky obsession of many of the Eurosport team. MS and RH aren't too bad thus far, but CK is so terrible, I almost cancelled my subscription. When the action really hots up, I shouldn't be surprised to hear more about Froome not being in the Giro or what the racing all means for Froome in the Tour or something, rather than what's actually going on in the race.
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Is that not down to audience though? To what countries does say the British Eurosport coverage of the Giro go to? I've noticed that when they acknowledge an audience watching in Australia (which is not every race), they focus on Aussie riders too. I'd guess their priority would be to focus on riders from countries they broadcast to, not to all countries where people can watch Eurosport Player. What countries get Eurosport International with English commentary?
Is that not down to audience though? To what countries does say the British Eurosport coverage of the Giro go to? I've noticed that when they acknowledge an audience watching in Australia (which is not every race), they focus on Aussie riders too. I'd guess their priority would be to focus on riders from countries they broadcast to, not to all countries where people can watch Eurosport Player. What countries get Eurosport International with English commentary?
Another thing on Rob Hatch is that he has a very broad Lancashire accent that he tones down when commentating, and I actually hear him say many of these foreign names with his natural accent less hidden - if that makes any sense.
For British viewers its Hobson's Choice when it comes to commentators (particularly in the absence of David Harmon) but Hatch is far more palatable than the excruciating Kirby.
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I dunno...one is as bad as the other for different reason
Pity Harmon cannot be brought back....I don't mind Quigley , Stephens,etc
Hatch today when Contador on the podium ....brought up the issue of Contador and needles
Jaunty Monty said:
I dunno...one is as bad as the other for different reason
Pity Harmon cannot be brought back....I don't mind Quigley , Stephens,etc
Hatch today when Contador on the podium ....brought up the issue of Contador and needles
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