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I don’t think we’ve learned anything so far, to be honest. Roglic likely more cautious than Vingo and Pogi because 1) Brissenger had just crashed twice and there was less data about how the course was riding; 2) It was actively raining; 3) He has fewer future chances, based on age, than Vingo and Pogi and can’t afford another lost Tour; 4) He crashed out of last year’s Tour; 5) Vingegaard has extra motivation riding in Denmark in front his fellow Danes.
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This.
Of course, that takes the fun out of these forum pages, so I get it.
While we are talking about Rogla, I just want to say that, like many fans, I choose to support individual riders based on an admittedly superficial reading of their personalities, riding/racing style, their exploits on the bike, etc. I love this guy's attitude toward racing, the way he always looks forward rather than backward, and his endearing personal story as ex-ski jumper-turned-WT-star comparatively late in sporting life.
I hope he wins the TdF this time around, but I'll still follow and enjoy his racing regardless of the outcome, just as I expect he will carry on in his familiar style and deal with any adversity that raises its ugly head. For the record, however, I do not think he is "finished" in any true sense of the word.
I wasn't talking about cyclists; I was referring to everyone in the human race.
Another thing to consider is Roglič more or less always rode injured against Pogačar at the Tour. This year they managed to change that so far. Personally i don't feel you can peak while being injured. Hence Roglič has some reserves in this area too. Improving chances by staying healthy.
As for the age discussion. If Vingegaard is considered to be young and peaking in his form. Then i feel that Roglič should do just fine.
As for the age discussion. If Vingegaard is considered to be young and peaking in his form. Then i feel that Roglič should do just fine.
And lets not forget Rogla excels on French soil this year. Danish and Swiss sections hence can still cause some issues. But on his terrain he should be unbeatable.
Tour of Denmark over without incidents, now the TdF starts on Tuesday with a 9 second deficit. A nice (shorter) TdF which features most of its main difficulties midweek after rest days as well.
I still think there's a lot to look forwards to with Rogla in the Tour.
I still think there's a lot to look forwards to with Rogla in the Tour.
They do look strong and seem to be enjoying themself. Due to race for green they do waste some more energy but so far it did keep them at front and out of the troubles.
Keep on the good work. Rest well. And after some of the most anticipated stages are already on the schedule.
Keep on the good work. Rest well. And after some of the most anticipated stages are already on the schedule.
Three days and 0 crashes, looking great at a the moment 
If Wout stays in Yellow they will also have team car position 1 which could be very valuable on the cobbles for speedy servicing of punctures.
Must say that Rogla is my favorite domestique.
He lost a few positions at the start of the climb and then closed the gap again, probably full of adrenaline and didn't realize he was pushing too hard. I think if he starts the climb on Wout's wheel, then he ends up with Yates and Vingegaard.
It's 900 meters, positioning is everything. Primož Roglič: Wout van Aert is ‘half human, half motor’ after unbelievable Tour de France stage win - VeloNews.com
I didn't see the stage, but I have 2 hypotheses
- Spent too much energy gaining positions lost before the climb
- Vingegaard is flying.
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Guys, it's Primož Roglič we are talking about here. A champion who has been proving people wrong time and time again. He'll do something special. If not this Tour, it'll be in the Vuelta. If not in the Vuelta, it'll be in the WC. If not in the WC it'll be in the Italian classics....and so on.
A closer look at the climb:
Roglic was way down & out of position.
Too bad the discussion tonight is about how sh*t he is because he got dropped by his own teammates. He must have sprinted pretty hard as well to make up the lost ground.
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That's a mistaken identification. The 8th and last Jumbo rider is Kruijswijk. Here is a better screenshot where you can see their numbers:
Roglič is on the wheel of Vingegaard, who is on the wheel of Benoot. Laporte is on Van Aert's wheel.
BTW you can also spot Pogi behind Sagan and Großschartner.
But it is correct that we see that Thomas and Roglič have to close a small gap at the bottom of the climb to get on the Jumbo express (where Roglič overtakes Thomas).
Perfect breakdown. It's like I thought I saw it happen. Roglic had to do a couple of sprints (like he always does anyway, he loses position in the bunch too easily and too often) to put himself in position in the Jumbo & Ineos train. That's enough extra energy burned to not be able to follow Yates and Jonas.
It's a mistake from his side, especially if the attack had been planned by the team. But his performance was far from pathetic, like some posters were suggesting in the race thread.
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