Twitter reports an early morning interview with Primoz where he says he has lots of pain. I cannot access the video though.
According to the Cyclingnews homepage, he said "every pedal stroke is like a knife in the back." I can't read or post the article because I don't subscribe. If that is at all true, damn, what a rider, and definitely shows the talk about him being past it was ridiculous.
As I've said a few times before, he is now basically Contador 2012-2017.Roglic is basically Nadal at this piont.
Always injured and hypothetically unbeatable if healthy
Vingegaard certainly is very good, so I think this is a bit harsh. But I would have put my money on Roglic and sent Vingegaard to the Giro, where he might have won. The Denmark start might have messed that plan up. Also, very strange that Christian Vande Velde kept saying Vingegaard is the only person who's ever dropped Pogacar on a climb. Roglic has done it multiple times. I don't think Pogacar has ever dropped a healthy Roglic on a climb. Of course, he did demolish him on that ITT, but that's a different story. Also, Pogacar absolutely destroyed Vingegaard without mercy in Tierreno-Adriatico, but for some reason he gets a pass there whereas Roglic, for not showing 100% strength in Paris-Nice, which he won, and the Dauphine, which he also won, has been written off. Strange.Vingegaard continues his record of never having put time into Pogacar in the mountains. Meanwhile his injured (dislocated shoulder , hip and lower back pain) teammate, and apparent 2nd in command, finished a few seconds behind him.
One wonders what would have happened if the team put full support behind their strongest rider from stage 1
He's the new 2012-2017 Contador, not the new Landa. Amazing form, lots of crashes, still wins a lot but can't stay healthy and put it together in the Tour.With all the what ifs of healthy Roglic this and lucky Roglic that, he's becoming the new Landa.
Don't know how to feel watching this, both happy and sad for him.
"I'll do anything to not have to be a ski jumper again"Don't know how to feel watching this, both happy and sad for him.
His mental strength is admirable, and his stoicism definitely helps in situations like these. At least he is smiling
But it is difficult to see him so struggling to move, and almost 3 minutes down. Will probably only get worse
Seems like he truly does not give a f**k though. Nothing means anything, everything is just amusing. No risk, no glory.
You and I agree on the route to earning more team focus. The results of the last two days would seem to be credible performances that JV should support except (a BIG except) we don't know if Primoz will become less affected by his crash and get better. It seldom happens because the upcoming schedule will be brutal.Why would you want "pure commitment" to Primoz, how boring is that? Sacrifice multiple possible stage wins to come second after Pogacar? Perhaps if you can't win a GT without having an entire team hold your hand for 3 weeks you don't deserve to win it.
At the end of the day it's still up to Roglic himself to prove he can best Pogacar, you can have the best team in the world but if Pogacar attacks it's going to be his own legs that will have to do it.
Pretty much.Sure it does. The record of Vuelta wins is four.
A Grand Tour win always matters. A lot.
I don't understand, though, how exactly Jumbo squandered Roglic's chances at winning the Tour over the last 4 years? In 2018-19 he was just not ready to beat Thomas-Bernal. In 2020 he got bettered on the last day by the greatest talent we have ever seen . Whereas last year he crashed badly and eventually pulled out, which wasn't Jumbo's fault, regardless of the fact that I agree with you they overextend themselves (like all this week with Wout and especially in this last stage - what was he doing? And what were they thinking?) to the point of hubris. In reality, however, Roglic had his chance in 2020, but alas failed to come through with the goods in spectacular fashion. And I respect the guy immensely
Based on the standards of then or today? Let's face it, Merckx's career is simply not possible in modern cycling. Even if only time will tell, if this kid keeps it up then Tadej must be considered even more prodigious. If only because to do what he is doing at his age today is p-h-e-n-o-m-e-n-o-m-e-n-a-l.You have ever seen. I saw Merckx ride live. Tadej has a Long Way o go
Based on the standards of then or today? Let's face it, Merckx's career is simply not possible in modern cycling. Even if only time will tell if this kid keeps it up, then Tadej must be considered even more prodigious.
Right now he seems to have virtually 0% chance at winning the race but way too good to quit.
I don't really believe he'll compete against Pogacar in the Alps, even if he goes on an upwards trajectory. And that basically means that if Vingegaard attacks, and he 100% should, Roglic will lose a bunch of extra time.
Are we straight up trolling at this point?
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Don't really know what to say to be honest. He did great today and should be right up there with the best for the overall. Yet he is fighting for breadcrumbs. Far away. Different battle.
All that nonsense talk about his demise. That should be put to rest now. Some reconciliation in regards to that TDF 2022 TT finale. Beautiful. Even injured Rogla held strong today. No way would he let this hill beat him twice. True inspiration.
13 P. ROGLIČ JUMBO - VISMA 4h 45' 59'' + 00h 02' 45'' B : 4''
Pogi a light year ahead and Jonas someone he won't attack. Beyond that. A minute and a half from the podium. I guess this is doable in some ideal circumstances. Something worth fighting for. On top of that you never know. There is still a chance.
With a healthy trio i guess playing a numbers game where Pogi would be squeezed somewhere in between Vingegaard and Rogla would enable them to divide some seconds in between all three. With injured Rogla i fear that Pogi will only gain seconds and from Vingegaard perspective he would need to crack Pogi climbing. Likely Pogi on a bad day. From Rogla perspective he would need to do something that is uncommon for modern cycling.