Van Aert has no chance for winning GC, at best he can top10
I thought so, but now I'm not sure...at all.
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Van Aert has no chance for winning GC, at best he can top10
The annual WvA illusion, like on Ventoux last year. People saw him drop Pog on Hautacam after a 4 min pull and think he can touch these guys. Except he climbed 4 minutes slower than Jonas and he got dropped early on Azet the day before. He would also lose a lot of minutes on high altitude climbs, he was dropped on Granon very early after being in the breakaway.I thought so, but now I'm not sure...at all.
Lamberts still has a strong opinion today. “Top 10, that's possible,” he says in Het Laatste Nieuws . “But he cannot win the Tour. Unless there are no steep uphill finishes and the Tour stays away from the high mountains.”
“There is about 0.6 watts per kilogram of body weight difference between Wout's threshold and the threshold of the best classification riders,” Lamberts continues. “That's a lot. Moreover, Wout has no fat reserve, so you can't get it there either."
From what I understand Yates might return to BEX. Carapaz also leaves to EF. It is kinda striking these guys are leaving Ineos, isn't it?
I think people overestimate the support Ineos would give to Roglic. They are a British-centric team and Pidcock is their golden boy. He and Geraint would never work for Roglic. Reminder that G said he doesn't want to work for anyone anymore, he got to the point where he only wants to ride for himself. Castro didn't look good at all lately, Van Baarle goes to TJV. With Bernal we might actually get a rivalry, he is not gonna sacrifice for Roglic easily. The only guy I would trust is Martinez but I can see Ineos pairing Bernal and Martinez again for Giro and leaving Roglic alone for Tour.
Including those two possible "future" teammates from Ineos, Geraint and Rowe who criticised him on their podcast after he left. Roglic would not be very well welcomed at Ineos by their riders, there are lots of big egos there.
This would be strange for me . . . the possibility of becoming an Ineos fan. Life is full of surprises.Summary: if Ineos want to compete again in the coming years to win the Tour de France, they need to sign Roglic. Also, Roglic himself will only have one goal in those coming years & that's to win the TdF. Ineos might even pay him more but in his opinion, Roglic should choose whichever team offers more support with the riders around him & according to Bruyneel, it's Ineos.
There sure is, the source is Gazzetta dello Sport. At least the team is interested in bringing him back, now it all depends on his decision. He has contract until the end of this year, yet no extension.Yates is 99% staying at Ineos - There is no Bike Exchange.
Looks like something from a sci-fi movieRoglič back at doctor Bračič, who was also healing his knee tendon problems this year.
View: https://twitter.com/Debby_Drckx/status/1551677978446368768/photo/1
Van Aert has no chance for winning GC, at best he can top10, his own trainer said that. He needs to drop a lot of kilos but I don't think he wants that. One of the tactical consultants from Jumbo said that the team should not underestimate Pog and the 1-2 strategy is still the best option. There are lots of bad things that can happen to Jonas from crashes to covid, there should always be a plan B and WvA ain't it, Kruiswijk either. I don't see Jumbo trusting Kelderman for TdF. Jonas won le Tour because they managed to crack him on Granon, without Roglic there is no assurance that happens. UAE next year will probably bring a better team and Pog is gonna ride smarter.
I've seen on reddit and the commentator from Eurosport mentioned it. Google also found a reference on a Danish site: https://www.feltet.dk/nyheder/thomas_og_rowe_revser_roglics_tour-forladelse/ Since this article is 19 July I'm guessing it's the episode from 18 July.
Google translate from that site:
Rowe:
Thomas:
As I said, Roglic does not have a lot of friends at Ineos, these are the only guys in the peloton who actually went out and criticized the decision. Hincapie and Pippa York are irrelevant anyway.
I think people who think Ineos move is a good one from a performance perspective are kinda naive and probably haven't followed Ineos enough. All you have to do is to think about the last 2 Vueltas and what a clusterfuck that team can be.
#vertebrae. I guess then the rumours were true.Roglič back at doctor Bračič, who was also healing his knee tendon problems this year.
View: https://twitter.com/Debby_Drckx/status/1551677978446368768/photo/1
I'm pretty sure Rog just went with the moment and decided to do the best he could. Also I don't think there's a gigantic difference between sitting in the gruppetto and doing one pull before dropping off.Thanks for the link.
That quote from Zeeman about Roglic destroying himself before Jumbo sent him home needs some context & I think a question should be asked, i.e. "whose decision was it to have Roglic pull hard on Alpe d'Huez & the Mende stage?".
I watched those stages from 11 onwards, i.e. Roglic did work everyday at the front & several hard pulls, especially on Alpe. On the final stage of his Tour, he was dropped at the beginning & sat at the back of his group before Jumbo 'retrieved' him when the split was undone & immediately put him on the front before he split the group himself with a major pull on the cat 3 climb before Mende.
My point is if this was all Roglic's own choice then yeah, an example of self-sacrifice which might have torpedoed his own season & considering his back pain Jumbo were right to make him stop (& they should have previously stopped him from pulling as well). But if they had a say in this work & made him do it? That wouldn't be okay for multiple reasons (health, standing, history & basic decency etc.).
Roglic's post-injury stages tell a story themselves & it never looked like he was holding back or recuperating, at all. Either through his own choice, or the team's.
I think it's more that the messaging is stupid.
I mean dude... Roglic was a "go-getter"? Praising an Olympic champion & 3x GT winner for finishing third on La Super Planche? (without mentioning context re injury).
Argh, my eyes.
#vertebrae. I guess then the rumours were true.![]()
Obviously JV noted Primoz's promising improvement compared to PDBF in 2020: 5th -> 3rd -> ... (you know what's next).
Hopefully Primoz draws some satisfaction from beating Pog this year (with the small help of Vinge).
We saw that in 2020. Roglic lost. Do you know how absolutely obnoxious you sound? No Danish distractions? Its a bike race goddamnit, and there are 180 other riders, and Vingegaard was the best. No Danish distractions at this point basically suggest you hope Vingegaard crashing out, not attending, getting sick etc. so you can have your beloved battle, where Roglic in 2023 in all likelyhood is losing to the 24 year old Pogacar.No satisfaction, it was ***. Now Pogacar looks human & likeable (hell, even I was cheering for him in the Pyrenees). This isn't acceptable. Rog versus Pog must happen without annoying haybale interruptions or Danish distractions.
Meanwhile, I'll tell myself the total radio silence from Roglic combined with the intensive vertebrae treatment he's receiving says he's doing absolutely everything he can to heal for the Vuelta. Hence no news because they don't have any yet.
Seeing Vingegaard & Pogacar nope out of a Vuelta title is also what makes Roglic such an awesome rider, i.e. he'll always go for glory if he can. No talk of fatigue, or heat, or long-term career projections. Just straight-up no-nonsense racing. That's what makes this injury so frustrating.
We saw that in 2020. Roglic lost. Do you know how absolutely obnoxious you sound? No Danish distractions? Its a bike race goddamnit, and there are 180 other riders, and Vingegaard was the best. No Danish distractions at this point basically suggest you hope Vingegaard crashing out, not attending, getting sick etc. so you can have your beloved battle, where Roglic in 2023 in all likelyhood is losing to the 24 year old Pogacar.
Holy christ, rarely I have ever seen such a vivid cheerleader from one particular forum user. spread across the forum where you casually sprinkle in your disingenious takes on Roglic getting sacrified and flat out lies This is La Florecita-esque, and thats not good if you ever wondered.