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Mas has completely given up. So it is between the old master vs the young upstart. So 4th Vuelta for Roglic or 1st Vuelta for Remco, it is going to be a cracker. I think it is good for the race that he lost ~2 mins in the beginning.

It's Anakin versus Obi Wan, with Rogla in the role of Master Kenobi.

Tomorrow at 2500m he's going to go full "it's over Remco, I have the high ground!".

In all seriousness this is pro sports & I no longer make real predictions I'll die on a hill for, i.e. anything can happen (good or bad). But don't you just love it when the script is torpedoed? Even just a little?

Primož Roglič was finished last weekend, over. At least that's what the narrative in this Vuelta was saying. I mean Rogla fans know what he's capable of but way too many fans of cycling (& journalists in the sport) are way, way too quick to bury this rider. Again, again & again. Well, he just showed that champion character which makes his journey so crazy (i.e. in this instance, has only two weeks prep for the Vuelta & then bam, finds better legs by the second weekend when no one expected it).

I'm also just really happy to see him at such a level again after his injuries (whether he can overhaul Evenepoel or not). People are way to quick to always define Rog as a mere 'climber puncheur' but they forget he finished second on the Col de la Loze (behind MAL) & again last year in the Vuelta on the Gamoniteiru (behind... MAL again!). So today was not so unpredictable really.

Roglič (among all his known skills) also happens to be an excellent high altitude climber who excels on longer climbs when he has the legs & form. This I feel is often overlooked.
 
It's Anakin versus Obi Wan, with Rogla in the role of Master Kenobi.

Tomorrow at 2500m he's going to go full "it's over Remco, I have the high ground!".

In all seriousness this is pro sports & I no longer make real predictions I'll die on a hill for, i.e. anything can happen (good or bad). But don't you just love it when the script is torpedoed? Even just a little?

Primož Roglič was finished last weekend, over. At least that's what the narrative in this Vuelta was saying. I mean Rogla fans know what he's capable of but way too many fans of cycling (& journalists in the sport) are way, way too quick to bury this rider. Again, again & again. Well, he just showed that champion character which makes his journey so crazy (i.e. in this instance, has only two weeks prep for the Vuelta & then bam, finds better legs by the second weekend when no one expected it).

I'm also just really happy to see him at such a level again after his injuries (whether he can overhaul Evenepoel or not). People are way to quick to always define Rog as a mere 'climber puncheur' but they forget he finished second on the Col de la Loze (behind MAL) & again last year in the Vuelta on the Gamoniteiru (behind... MAL again!). So today was not so unpredictable really.

Roglič (among all his known skills) also happens to be an excellent high altitude climber who excels on longer climbs when he has the legs & form. This I feel is often overlooked.

I think the narrative was more that if evenepoel kept pushing the same numbers, roglic can try, but he will die trying.

And I don't think its Roglic that just magically rode better, it was Evenepoel that rode magically worse imho which is the exact part of the narrative. (or at least that was what i read in the papers and what the cycling managers said).

But you are right, Roglic is a fighter, that is also what most people said and acknowledge. That is also why he is such a great rider to watch, as he wants to go for the win or die trying.. Its not for his interviews!! :D (at least for me :)). And now it is proven why you should never give up, because there can always be an opportunity to fight back. Roglic made good use of the opportunity.
 
I think the narrative was more that if evenepoel kept pushing the same numbers, roglic can try, but he will die trying.

And I don't think its Roglic that just magically rode better, it was Evenepoel that rode magically worse imho which is the exact part of the narrative. (or at least that was what i read in the papers and what the cycling managers said).

But you are right, Roglic is a fighter, that is also what most people said and acknowledge. That is also why he is such a great rider to watch, as he wants to go for the win or die trying.. Its not for his interviews!! :D (at least for me :)). And now it is proven why you should never give up, because there can always be an opportunity to fight back. Roglic made good use of the opportunity.

I actually think Remco rode very well today and limited his losses. It wasn't his type of climb and lower part of tomorrow's finale is neither. There are probably some other factors also (fatigue, fall, maybe peaked to fast,...).

Rogla is riding into shape this Vuelta and coming stage will be cruical one. Other remaining mountain stages 18 and 20 simply lack the gradient to attack Remco (unless his form falls off a cliff) since he can diesel his way up and cover attacks.

Anyway Rogla is a fighter and being second means nothing to him so I expect do or die attitude tomorrow unless he will totally lack the legs.
 
Roglic is such a class act. I don't want him to beat Evenepoel but I hope he ends up winning a world championship or something. I really want his career to be well-remembered.
Not saying that he doesn't already have an impressive trophy case.

Let him beat Remco :) Remco has years on his side, and, well, this is the Roglic thread - so go Roglic! The man never says die. Tomorrow will be great tv.
 
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Roglic clearly didn’t have his best legs today, so, given that, gaining :15 on Remco isn’t a bad result. Definitely not what he hoped for. Losing time to Mas a surprise for sure. I think he hoped to set a hard pace and drop Remco at the bottom where it was steep and when that didn’t happen he was happy to save his legs and steal some seconds at the end. Impossible to imagine him not riding with MAL and Mas if he felt good.
 
Roglic clearly didn’t have his best legs today, so, given that, gaining :15 on Remco isn’t a bad result. Definitely not what he hoped for. Losing time to Mas a surprise for sure. I think he hoped to set a hard pace and drop Remco at the bottom where it was steep and when that didn’t happen he was happy to save his legs and steal some seconds at the end. Impossible to imagine him not riding with MAL and Mas if he felt good.

Exactly, at some point Primoz realized he's not stronger than Remco today so holding wheels and attack the more tired opponent at the end was probably the most he could've done today. Still, status quo basically maintained after this big day, which isn't good news for Primoz.
 
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