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[CyclistAbi]

@VayaVayaVaya

He could but i feel that he has put more emphasis on winning stage races. Likely due to the Tour, among other stage races, being one of his goals. And there would be a rather strong clash with some of his more classics oriented team members. Said that after winning Giro and Tour Rogla will likely be more open to it. And at for example MSR he would fit in naturally in the team. Plan A being either Rogla from the punch or van Aert from the sprint. And there is nothing all that specific about LBL that Rogla couldn't handle. When we start talking about cobbles. I don't see on why Rogla should risk it. Especially if he has some big stage races targeted for that season.

 

[johnymax]

Hype on Remco is sky high at the moment. Odds for him winning the Giro have fallen after today's LBL. If you are planning to bet on Rogla, now is probably the time to do so. I'm still contemplating tbh...I still think the odds are too low to pull the trigger, but I think between the two they should be about even and not 2:1 like they are right now.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

Hype on Remco is sky high at the moment. Odds for him winning the Giro have fallen after today's LBL. If you are planning to bet on Rogla, now is probably the time to do so. I'm still contemplating tbh...I still think the odds are too low to pull the trigger, but I think between the two they should be about even and not 2:1 like they are right now.

Odds reflect the amount of money waged and I'm sure there are plenty of others who put some of their LBL winnings onto a Remco win at the Giro.
If I were betting on Roglic, I'd probably wait til after the first ITT.

 

[johnymax]

Odds reflect the amount of money waged and I'm sure there are plenty of others who put some of their LBL winnings onto a Remco win at the Giro.
If I were betting on Roglic, I'd probably wait til after the first ITT.

Yes, I was thinking the same. Maybe even after the second ITT on stage 9, as I think Remco to gain time in both and I can see him ahead in GC by a minute or even more by then.

 

[Oldermanish]

On France 2 (French TV) Marion Rousse was one of the commentators.

So for Alaphilippe to do what he did one week after the greatest moment of his career (winning the Worlds) & in his dream race (Liège)... in front of his girlfriend who was commentating on French TV as well... I think the gods of cycling had some mischievous fun that day.

And Rogla did what Rogla does. Never give up. It's why I have a good feeling about the Giro tbh, even though Evenepoel is going to be a formidable opponent.

The cycling force was indeed with Alaphilippe, especially when he didn't crash the half dozen times he almost hooked himself into someone else or a barrier. For those that doubt Roglic's ability to sprint that video should remove them. His positioning wasn't that great, though.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

We have in front of us…:

May - Giro: Remco vs Roglic,

June - TdS: WVA vs MvdP, and

July - TdF: Vinge vs Pog.

Three months ahead of us, with three duels between the Top6 riders.

So after an already great spring, with great races, the best three months of this season are to come.

(And in late summer, I want to see Froome fighting for the Vuelta title…)

 

[CyclistAbi]

@Skijumper Roglic fan

Hopefully. As in cycling such dreams often end up in some ditch. We'll see.

 

[Rackham]

Jumbo is aiming for Roglič to be at his best in the third week of the Giro: Interview | Waarom 'Luik als compromis' niet paste voor Roglic: 'We hebben geleerd uit het verleden' | Indeleiderstrui.nl

Stages 18, 19 & 20 will create some massive gaps IMO.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

Six weeks until Pog can train fully again, I just read!…

Oh la la… Now Jumbo should switch, IMHO.

Send Vinge to the Giro, and Primoz to the TdF… That is Primoz’ maybe only chance to finally win the Tour.

Then it‘s Vinge vs Remco at Giro, TdF for Primoz, and Vuelta for Pogacar…

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Six weeks until Pog can train fully again, I just read!…

Oh la la… Now Jumbo should switch, IMHO.

Send Vinge to the Giro, and Primoz to the TdF… That is Primoz’ maybe only chance to finally win the Tour.

Then it‘s Vinge vs Remco at Giro, TdF for Primoz, and Vuelta for Pogacar…

I'm fairly certain it will be Giro for Welsford, Tour for Bini, and Vuelta for Tom Lindner.

 

[johnymax]

Jumbo is aiming for Roglič to be at his best in the third week of the Giro: Interview | Waarom 'Luik als compromis' niet paste voor Roglic: 'We hebben geleerd uit het verleden' | Indeleiderstrui.nl

Stages 18, 19 & 20 will create some massive gaps IMO.

It's obvious that was the plan from the beginning. The third week is where the race will be won. People thought his Catalunya form is his peak, but they are going to be surprised again. We are still waiting for peak Rogla. Maybe this is the time, I can feel it. I was so prepared in 2020 and 2021 but crashes prevented him to reach his career peak. We saw flashes of it and maybe his form in the 2021 Vuelta wasn't far from it, but I always felt he still has room to grow.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

It's obvious that was the plan from the beginning. The third week is where the race will be won. People thought his Catalunya form is his peak, but they are going to be surprised again. We are still waiting for peak Rogla. Maybe this is the time, I can feel it. I was so prepared in 2020 and 2021 but crashes prevented him to reach his career peak. We saw flashes of it and maybe his form in the 2021 Vuelta wasn't far from it, but I always felt he still has room to grow.

I don't think that was the general opinion. Some said they believed he was closer to his peak than Remcos was to his, but that isn't the same thing.

 

[johnymax]

I don't think that was the general opinion. Some said they believed he was closer to his peak than Remcos was to his, but that isn't the same thing.

Well, this is where I think they were wrong. I think it's the other way around. But I have Roglič in my avatar, so I might be biased. Hopefully we'll have an answer in about a month.

 

[red_flanders]

Six weeks until Pog can train fully again, I just read!…

Oh la la… Now Jumbo should switch, IMHO.

Send Vinge to the Giro, and Primoz to the TdF… That is Primoz’ maybe only chance to finally win the Tour.

Then it‘s Vinge vs Remco at Giro, TdF for Primoz, and Vuelta for Pogacar…

I read recovery takes 6 weeks and that he will be on a trainer by EOW. There will be no change, and they're going to send their best GT rider to the Tour.

 

[houtdffan]

Jumbo is aiming for Roglič to be at his best in the third week of the Giro: Interview | Waarom 'Luik als compromis' niet paste voor Roglic: 'We hebben geleerd uit het verleden' | Indeleiderstrui.nl

Stages 18, 19 & 20 will create some massive gaps IMO.

That is a risky strategy given the time gaps that will be created in week 1

 

[QueenStagiaire]

That is a risky strategy given the time gaps that will be created in week 1

How many minutes will Remco take? 10, 20? Roglič will need his best shape to keep inside the time limit!

 

[houtdffan]

How many minutes will Remco take? 10, 20? Roglič will need his best shape to keep inside the time limit!

Based on the Vuelta, he could lose ~3 minutes over the first week if not in the best shape. Stage 7 is similar to stage 6 at the Vuelta, just not quite as long in terms of the steep part of the climb. The we have the TTs where Remco gained ~50 seconds over 30 km in the Vuelta. Given the additional stage 1 TT, I could see Remco gaining 1:30-2 min in total via the TT

 

[how yes no?]

Based on the Vuelta, he could lose ~3 minutes over the first week if not in the best shape. Stage 7 is similar to stage 6 at the Vuelta, just not quite as long in terms of the steep part of the climb. The we have the TTs where Remco gained ~50 seconds over 30 km in the Vuelta. Given the additional stage 1 TT, I could see Remco gaining 1:30-2 min in total via the TT

He will not be in the best shape in the first week in terms of when the form will peak, but his overall shape will be way way higher than at any point in last year Vuelta, when he had like 2 weeks on the bike of somewhat normal training before, still with problematic shoulder, let alone any serious preparation with staying at high altitude or anything like that. Vuelta always came as an after thought of the season, never the main objective with all the preparations for it.

 

[Extinction]

He will not be in the best shape in the first week in terms of when the form will peak, but his overall shape will be way way higher than at any point in last year Vuelta, when he had like 2 weeks on the bike of somewhat normal training before, still with problematic shoulder, let alone any serious preparation with staying at high altitude or anything like that. Vuelta always came as an after thought of the season, never the main objective with all the preparations for it.

No way Roglic's shape will be that much better than at the previous Vuelta, when he won stage 4 iirc. Better yes, but marginally, as it is a myth he was out of form at the beginning of the Spanish GT last year. Jumbo would not have brought him to win otherwise. And he'd best not start the Giro too far off peak form with the TTs and mountains in the first half of the race, because if he is it's worrying. And it's obvious all the contenders, not just Roglic, will be aiming to peak for week 3, with the frightful combo of mountains they must face it could not be otherwise.

 

[CyclistAbi]

If you read the article from above it says on why Rogla didn't participate in races such as LBL. To keep him fresh in week 3 of the Giro. But that doesn't come down to Rogla not being in good form at the start line of the Giro. Although this Giro edition will likely be decide in week 3. I am sure that Rogla will try to gain some time on Remco in weeks prior.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Don't forget to go on a strict regime in regards to respiratory infections. Likely that will also be a factor at this Giro edition.

 

[rokovski]

Primož Roglič: Moj cilj je zmagati na Giru

Po sedmih tednih višinskih priprav je Primož Roglič pripravljen za glavni cilj sezone – majsko Dirko po Italiji. 33-letni kapetan Jumba Visme je bolj sproščen kot prej, na Teideju pa je od blizu spremljal tudi treninge glavnega tekmeca Remca Evenepoela.

www.rtvslo.si

Nice interview, he is cold as ice and ready to win Giro.
I dont have time to translate, maybe someone else have, or ask google

 

[Extinction]

If you read the article from above it says on why Rogla didn't participate in races such as LBL. To keep him fresh in week 3 of the Giro. But that doesn't come down to Rogla not being in good form at the start line of the Giro. Although this Giro edition will likely be decide in week 3. I am sure that Rogla will try to gain some time on Remco in weeks prior.

I doubt Liege will have a brearing on being fresh during the third week, which was a full month prior. It shall depend on how the first two weeks are ridden and where one stands on GC. Evidently Jumbo feels Roglic will be down on Evenepoel after the TTs, to then leapfrog ahead of him in week three, because fresher.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Although lately it feels like there is no difference anymore in my opinion races such as LBL or Giro are totally different beasts. For me personally it just doesn't make sense to focus on LBL if your main goal is Giro. Especially considering JV would not bring the classics A team and chasing around Pogi and Remco at LBL. Without fully targeting LBL. It just doesn't add up. Giving the focus and full attention to Giro is in my opinion the right call for Rogla.

 

[Extinction]

Although lately it feels like there is no difference anymore in my opinion races such as LBL or Giro are totally different beasts. For me personally it just doesn't make sense to focus on LBL if your main goal is Giro. Especially considering JV would not bring the classics A team and chasing around Pogi and Remco at LBL. Without fully targeting LBL. It just doesn't add up. Giving the focus and full attention to Giro is in my opinion the right call for Rogla.

They are evidently scared.