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[Red Rick]

He looks so relaxed and happy during interviews and (at least to me) he somehow looks so uncomfortable on the bike during this Giro.

He said he can't wait for tomorrow's ITT. So let's wait and hope for the best.

He's only happy because he knows the Tour winning super peak is slowly incoming.

 

[bill1109]

I am not saying I am pro, I don’t think I’m a pro, I am not sorry I’m not pro and I don’t think I know better than a pro. I can have an opinion that pros messed up or that certain pros do their job better than other pros without all of the above… Being a pro in something, I am also trying to have an opened mind to suggestions of people who are not pros at that same thing. And sometimes, they have good suggestions…

i get it. i dont want to get into the pro is or not thing...sorry if i went there. we, as fans, just want a good race. and i do agree many ppl on forums are very adept at race tactics...but that is only based on past race assessments. these riders change race by race...unfortunately...due to age, crashes, etc....but i believe the race ds has the most up to date info and they have to react to that and put it to plan. i think all...ds, and competitors expected rog to be stronger.

 

[zlev11]

btw, big F you to Magnus Cort for sprinting for the 3rd place time bonus today. i'm sure Roglic is glad he gifted Cort that stage win at the Vuelta a couple years ago when he couldve passed him easily. that's why you dont give any gifts.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Stage 19 was the first stage Rogla gained some time on both main rivals. In my opinion Thomas is in great form and hence that shouldn't be underestimated. Stage 20 is something that i fell is really well suited for Rogla. So fingers crossed and se vidimo na Višarju!

 

[bNator]

i get it. i dont want to get into the pro is or not thing...sorry if i went there. we, as fans, just want a good race. and i do agree many ppl on forums are very adept at race tactics...but that is only based on past race assessments. these riders change race by race...unfortunately...due to age, crashes, etc....but i believe the race ds has the most up to date info and they have to react to that and put it to plan. i think all...ds, and competitors expected rog to be stronger.

Don’t get me wrong, I share your sentiment that pros get criticised all too much based on lack of data or wrong impressions. Probably the majority of criticism is usually unfounded. It looked like TJV was not being ambitious enough last week only to turn out Rogla is uncharacteristically weak due to reasons we don’t know.

Anyway, as far as I am concerned - case closed😀

 

[kingjr]

btw, big F you to Magnus Cort for sprinting for the 3rd place time bonus today. i'm sure Roglic is glad he gifted Cort that stage win at the Vuelta a couple years ago when he couldve passed him easily. that's why you dont give any gifts.

I'm pretty sure he sprinted only for 3rd place (or just the best possible result, maybe he didn't even know exactly where he was), and not for the time bonus.

 

[Miha81]

He's only happy because he knows the Tour winning super peak is slowly incoming.

That would be something. Since his 2020 loss in the final stage and all bad luck in 2021 and 2022 TDF I hope he will be able to properly challenge for the yellow once again.

 

[zlev11]

I'm pretty sure he sprinted only for 3rd place (or just the best possible result, maybe he didn't even know exactly where he was), and not for the time bonus.

whatever, he knew the time bonus was there and he had nothing to gain from finishing 3rd vs 4th. it was a nice chance to repay Roglic for that day but I guess he didn't remember it. that's why you dont give gifts.

 

[kingjr]

whatever, he knew the time bonus was there and he had nothing to gain from finishing 3rd vs 4th. it was a nice chance to repay Roglic for that day but I guess he didn't remember it. that's why you dont give gifts.

It's kind of normal to sprint for the best possible result, certainly if you're in the top 5-10, and if I'd been in the break all day, I'd absolutely try to stay ahead of the first riders from the peloton at least. But I agree with you that he probably didn't even think of that stage in the Vuelta at that moment.

 

[KZD]

whatever, he knew the time bonus was there and he had nothing to gain from finishing 3rd vs 4th. it was a nice chance to repay Roglic for that day but I guess he didn't remember it. that's why you dont give gifts.

Given that his heart rate was probably at around 170 bpm, I don't think Cort was aware that there were time bonus at stake. Even if he was, he is paid to bring UCI points to EF so I can't understand the criticism.

 

[Lequack]

 

[SHAD0W93]

Sounds like Bahrain started hiring EF now as well in their quest against Roglic.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Honestly it’s very annoying that the team didn’t pace at the front. A win in the Queen stage and a few more bonus seconds would have felt great for Roglic no doubt.

 

[Blanco]

Honestly it’s very annoying that the team didn’t pace at the front. A win in the Queen stage and a few more bonus seconds would have felt great for Roglic no doubt.

I guess the call was on Roglic, and he didn't feel so great. Maybe a mistake, cause others were no better.

 

[Wyndbrook]

btw, big F you to Magnus Cort for sprinting for the 3rd place time bonus today. i'm sure Roglic is glad he gifted Cort that stage win at the Vuelta a couple years ago when he couldve passed him easily. that's why you dont give any gifts.

UCI points, might be crucial in two years time

 

[Baldinger]

btw, big F you to Magnus Cort for sprinting for the 3rd place time bonus today. i'm sure Roglic is glad he gifted Cort that stage win at the Vuelta a couple years ago when he couldve passed him easily. that's why you dont give any gifts.

Cort is such a selfish rider. The moment he got dropped, he should somehow have rushed to help Roglic gain time on Thomas. A BIG F you to Cort from me as well. No wait, a BIG F you to all riders not riding for Roglic.

 

[zlev11]

Cort is such a selfish rider. The moment he got dropped, he should somehow have rushed to help Roglic gain time on Thomas. A BIG F you to Cort from me as well. No wait, a BIG F you to all riders not riding for Roglic.

glad we can agree

just go look at the finish. he's noodling to the line, sees Roglic and Thomas and does an all out sprint. he had no need to finish third. is it really that many more UCI points for 3rd vs 5th on a single stage?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He's only happy because he knows the Tour winning super peak is slowly incoming.

Something has to be done with the Skeleton though. Otherwise it will be bidon carrying peak.

 

[Baldinger]

glad we can agree

just go look at the finish. he's noodling to the line, sees Roglic and Thomas and does an all out sprint. he had no need to finish third. is it really that many more UCI points for 3rd vs 5th on a single stage?

In all seriousness, Giro dItalia is a race. Cort is riding for EF, Roglic for Jumbo. Why on earth should Cort not try to get third on a major mountain stage when he has the chance? Roglic was just too slow to get those bonus seconds. Deal with it.

 

[Elos Anjos]

In all seriousness, Giro dItalia is a race. Cort is riding for EF, Roglic for Jumbo. Why on earth should Cort not try to get third on a major mountain stage when he has the chance? Roglic was just too slow to get those bonus seconds. Deal with it.

Yep. There's not much left to be said.

 

[Oldermanish]

Don’t get me wrong, I share your sentiment that pros get criticised all too much based on lack of data or wrong impressions. Probably the majority of criticism is usually unfounded. It looked like TJV was not being ambitious enough last week only to turn out Rogla is uncharacteristically weak due to reasons we don’t know.

Anyway, as far as I am concerned - case closed😀

I think his and TJV's unknown is largely what is the "top form" they can predict? He's had a string of injuries, unfinished GTs and no amount of data can foretell what happens 3 weeks down the road. Those old results mean nothing to this race.
I'm sure they are looking at all date in live race time and staying with what has been proven possible to this point and maintain a close race. Save for either Almeida or Thomas cracking under stress they couldn't be overconfident.
Tomorrow there is no holding back and no downside. It'll be the truest test to all contenders' limits and will be interesting to see if any of our guesses were even close. Almeida came back today so I can't count any of those three guys out of the overall win.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Roglic could have got the bonus seconds if he used his team properly on the stage. Asking cort to gift them by contrast is bizarre.

 

[zlev11]

In all seriousness, Giro dItalia is a race. Cort is riding for EF, Roglic for Jumbo. Why on earth should Cort not try to get third on a major mountain stage when he has the chance? Roglic was just too slow to get those bonus seconds. Deal with it.

because it looked like he was going for the sprint specifically to deny him the time bonus!

 

[Fantastico]

because it looked like he was going for the sprint specifically to deny him the time bonus!

No, it looked like he was going for the sprint specifically because two riders approached him from behind and he wanted to secure his third place. Like you should when you ride a bike race.

 

[zlev11]

No, it looked like he was going for the sprint specifically because two riders approached him from behind and he wanted to secure his third place. Like you should when you ride a bike race.

nobody gives a *** about who finishes 3rd on a stage. he was racing to be the 2nd loser.