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[Lequack]

Wait why is Bora a good choice? They haven't really shown they can be a GC team, while Ineos have. It's not just the domestiques, it's every small details that Jumbo, Ineos or even UAE have perfected over the years.

 

[iBanesto]

He's going to Tour de Tietema–Unibet Cycling Team.

 

[iBanesto]

Wait why is Bora a good choice? They haven't really shown they can be a GC team, while Ineos have. It's not just the domestiques, it's every small details that Jumbo, Ineos or even UAE have perfected over the years.

Well they did win Giro with Hindlay.

 

[joseph89]

Wait why is Bora a good choice? They haven't really shown they can be a GC team, while Ineos have. It's not just the domestiques, it's every small details that Jumbo, Ineos or even UAE have perfected over the years.

"King"

 

[Lequack]

Well they did win Giro with Hindlay.

That was mostly a one off lucky shot, you don't see them winning GT much since then. Whereas a proper team would build up on that.

 

[Nick2413]

Roglic on Bora would be a nice surprise

 

[danielovichdk2]

I think you are selling him short. He is a great rider and definitely good enough to win GT's without the absolut best team. Some GT's has a weaker feld and he should be able to dominate them.

I think this whole thing is bad, especially for Jumbo. If they want do dominate the stage race calendar, they need both Roglic and Jonas. They should go out of there way to make him happy. Being compleat sole leader at the tour for them, is of course ridiculous and I think he knows that.

It's no secret that I think dual leadership at the tour is doable, just like in 22. The competition is so great that things will sort themselves out on the road and the team is strong enough to support them both. Just my opinion.

I don't like him going to Ineos. I think they often show themselves as tactically inept, and I don't trust them with his talent. I like Lidl much more for him. Skelmose could use a mentor and him and Mads could dom for him like no other team. Mads is a beast when he dom's, just ask Richie Port. It's like van Arte level stuff.

It's not him I am selling short. The teams in play, ineos or moviestar does not have the team to back it up.

Rogla is great and has looked the best he has this year, in some years. But I don't believe it if he moves.

 

[Rackham]

Wait why is Bora a good choice? They haven't really shown they can be a GC team, while Ineos have. It's not just the domestiques, it's every small details that Jumbo, Ineos or even UAE have perfected over the years.

Culturally, locally (Raubling is just over the border from Austria) & in terms of a team which isn't too dissimilar from Jumbo, i.e. not to generalize too much here, he'd be going from a Dutch team to German team with a similar mindset. There wouldn't be a culture shock.

And on paper, I think Bora currently has a better team than Ineos. But we'll see. It's all just rumors right now.

 

[Ricco']

That was mostly a one off lucky shot, you don't see them winning GT much since then. Whereas a proper team would build up on that.

Not even UAE or Ineos have won a GT since Bora won one.

 

[iBanesto]

That was mostly a one off lucky shot, you don't see them winning GT much since then. Whereas a proper team would build up on that.

Still won one though.

How many teams won a GT this year???

So Roglic's options were limited to find a "GT winning team" anyway.

Beggars can't be choosers.

 

[Lequack]

Not even UAE or Ineos have won a GT since Bora won one.

True, but they were much closer.

 

[Berniece]

Bora would be a good choice, he can mentor Uijtdebroeckx like he did Vingegaard

 

[Rackham]

Not even UAE or Ineos have won a GT since Bora won one.

And in the GT Bora won in 2022, Jumbo didn't even exist beyond a couple of stage wins by Bouwman & the KOM jersey (Dumoulin DNF'd).

So things go fast in cycling. Not so long ago (2019) Jumbo were the underdogs, whereas now people believe everything they touch turns to gold. But that's not true either (when was the last time they won a Monument? i.e. Rog in 2020).

 

[Ilmaestro99]

True, but they were much closer.

Man what are you waffling about. We're talking about a team that ride specialized bikes and have Hindley, vlasov, higuita, buchman, kamna, Daniel martinez and ujtedbrocks as climbing support, as well as a number of strong rouleurs. Also probably room for roglic to bring 1 or 2 of his favourite teammates. They know how to win a gt and vlasov and hindley both improved after joining.

It's always annoying to me that riders sign extremely long term contracts with teams and then break them as soon as they become unhappy. Contracts should have meaning.

 

[theyoungest]

Bora would be a good choice, he can mentor Uijtdebroeckx like he did Vingegaard

Until Uijtdebroeks gets too good, then Roglic is out the door

And in the GT Bora won in 2022, Jumbo didn't even exist beyond a couple of stage wins by Bouwman & the KOM jersey (Dumoulin DNF'd).

So things go fast in cycling. Not so long ago (2019) Jumbo were the underdogs, whereas now people believe everything they touch turns to gold. But that's not true either (when was the last time they won a Monument? i.e. Rog in 2020).

Didn't exist except for a couple of stage wins and the KOM jersey Evenepoel begs to differ.

I think Bora are a pretty professional team, but apparently in terms of nutrition it's still every man for himself (if Uijtdebroeks is to be believed). That's where Jumbo makes the difference. But of course a company that sells kitchens should be able to improve in that regard.

 

[Netserk]

€6M for 3 years sounds good. Well deserved, as he has probably been paid below market price the past 5 years. It's also a lump of money at a size that should make him sole captain.

As long as he won't suffer misfortunes and he'll have good legs next year, I'll be happy for him. Come what may, Rogla is ready to rock.

 

[joseph89]

"King"

GCN - According to his camp, the notion of complete leadership for the Tour de France in 2024 was a major factor in his decision to try and extract himself from his current deal.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Yeah fans complain over JBV dominance and then we have this absolute legendary rider going away from them and all people do is....to complain. Roglic is balancing the peloton just by his own mindset. Get a grip people.

 

[theyoungest]

Yeah fans complain over JBV dominance and then we have this absolute legendary rider going away from them and all people do is....to complain. Roglic is balancing the peloton just by his own mindset. Get a grip people.

Complain? I only see people cheering him on.

 

[laarsland]

He's going to Tour de Tietema–Unibet Cycling Team.

Even judged the continously lowered bar of these jokes, this was below par.

 

[samhocking]

Ineos did this to themselves, they showed every GT rider & agent that they where desperate to sign one and would go to any lengths. Roglic would simply have asked for the remco deal to sign.

That's kind of how the sport works for all teams lol!

 

[iBanesto]

Roglic is not getting any younger so if he wants to win the Tour he has to go somewhere else.

After the Vuelta kerfuffle, where he wasn't allowed to fight for his 4th Vuelta given his age, it is obvious the relationship was strained.

We all know Jumbo is banking on Vingegaard for his 3rd Tour win.

 

[iBanesto]

Even judged the continously lowered bar of these jokes, this was below par.

You want a medal?

 

[Ilmaestro99]

That was mostly a one off lucky shot, you don't see them winning GT much since then. Whereas a proper team would build up on that.

Bora is the only team that has won a GT since July 2021 that is not part of jumbo-quickstep merger

 

[Elos Anjos]

Complain? I only see people cheering him on.

I was addressing his move to Bora. Anyway, every cycling fan should cheer this move by Rogla regardless of his personal likings.