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[Gargamel35]

Is that whining, or just healthy ambition and wanting his team to meet that ambition? Apparently Bora haven't invested too much in his time trial, which is actually the quickest way to success because it's the most controllable part of cycling. I think it makes perfect sense for him to point that out.

Which other instances of him dissing his team have you found? It has to be quite serious if you call him a whiner. You mean the incident with Vlasov?

You are right, nothing to see here, except a 20 year old telling the press how a team should be run. That will teach those bosses to give a youngster what he wants. It's the only thing missing for him to win something. Like i said, it's one thing a veteran/proven champion says something, because he's not happy. It's completely different when a youngster starts pushing his agenda over the press. He's not happy with Bora equipment and setup, he's not happy with Vlasov, he's not happy with Roglič coming over...all that because he thinks he's one little thing away from winning GTs....hm.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Of course, because the guy is 20 years old it’s not wrong of the team to not prepare his spare bike…

 

[Gargamel35]

Of course, because the guy is 20 years old it’s not wrong of the team to not prepare his spare bike…

No one said that.

 

[Berniece]

He's not happy with Roglič coming over

I missed that. When did he say that?

 

[theyoungest]

You are right, nothing to see here, except a 20 year old telling the press how a team should be run. That will teach those bosses to give a youngster what he wants. It's the only thing missing for him to win something. Like i said, it's one thing a veteran/proven champion says something, because he's not happy. It's completely different when a youngster starts pushing his agenda over the press. He's not happy with Bora equipment and setup, he's not happy with Vlasov, he's not happy with Roglič coming over...all that because he thinks he's one little thing away from winning GTs....hm.

Ah, so that's the problem: you're hurt because he's supposedly unhappy with the arrival of Roglic. Which is actually something he hasn't said anything at all about, AFAIK.

 

[Gargamel35]

Ah, so that's the problem: you're hurt because he's supposedly unhappy with the arrival of Roglic. Which is actually something he hasn't said anything at all about, AFAIK.

Sure boss, you see what you want to see.

 

[theyoungest]

Sure boss, you see what you want to see.

Since you say it yourself, not that difficult to see actually

 

[Gargamel35]

Since you say it yourself, not that difficult to see actually

Buy yourself some glasses.

 

[Lequack]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAIvDyXOqI8

 

[Oldermanish]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAIvDyXOqI8

Really sketchy reporting. Full of known conditions for team success, imaginary potential subterfuge scenarios of existing team rider ambitions and conclusions about age, motivation, etc. It doesn't illuminate or even inform that much for anyone that knows cycling. I think I'm lucky that I don't see much Euro broadcast. IMO US analysis can be simplistic, jingoistic and labored at best. The reporter was solid on one opinion: JV Made Roglic's career.....
Not sure many would agree with that.

 

[Berniece]

Sure boss, you see what you want to see.

So you were lying? Or where did you read it between the lines?

 

[MTV]

Good luck Primož!
New team, but Primož is still the one.
With or without you.

 

[how yes no?]

Really sketchy reporting. Full of known conditions for team success, imaginary potential subterfuge scenarios of existing team rider ambitions and conclusions about age, motivation, etc. It doesn't illuminate or even inform that much for anyone that knows cycling. I think I'm lucky that I don't see much Euro broadcast. IMO US analysis can be simplistic, jingoistic and labored at best. The reporter was solid on one opinion: JV Made Roglic's career.....
Not sure many would agree with that.

When I stumbled upon some videos from that channel, my alarm bells were ringing aswell and I stoped quickly, but what put me off the most, was the feeling as if this is some bot-generated content... I didn't make the effort to investigate further, I'm just staying away, but I really wouldn't be surprised if it was.

 

[Oldermanish]

When I stumbled upon some videos from that channel, my alarm bells were ringing aswell and I stoped quickly, but what put me off the most, was the feeling as if this is some bot-generated content... I didn't make the effort to investigate further, I'm just staying away, but I really wouldn't be surprised if it was.

Or just AI editting. Journalism is not the same thing as reporting, which seems to be a race to get syllables out that might generate clicks=ads. It doesn't need to make sense but I like your take.

 

[dennisdy]

When I stumbled upon some videos from that channel, my alarm bells were ringing aswell and I stoped quickly, but what put me off the most, was the feeling as if this is some bot-generated content... I didn't make the effort to investigate further, I'm just staying away, but I really wouldn't be surprised if it was.

The Watts YT channel (the source of this video) lists Slovenia as its location.

https://www.youtube.com/@WattsYT/about

 

[ice&fire]

The difference between the nonsense posted here and on youtube is the video recording and editing skills.

 

[Rob5091]

Roglic realizes the clock is ticking on his career, and 2024 will be the Tour or bust. Everything else will be just preparation.

 

[Lequack]

One week before the ski stars open the Alpine Ski World Cup season in Sölden, the BORA - hansgrohe cycling professionals will end their season. The eagerly awaited first appearance of the famous newcomer Primoz Roglic is also expected at the team camp.

BORA - hansgrohe superstar Roglic's first appearance in Ötztal

One week before the ski stars open the Alpine Ski World Cup season in Sölden, the BORA - hansgrohe

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Apparently he's going for first preparation with Bora this week already at Solden in Austria. They usually have a team camp there in mid October

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gs4FytdJSo

 

[shadowrider]

No one said that.

O yes, you, Gargamel suggested that. It is unacceptable the material is not OK in a (top) professional team. Bike and sparebike. Shameful. Not for the first time. The youngster did react very well. It also shows he has character and personality. Comparable with Evenepoel.

 

[Gargamel35]

O yes, you, Gargamel suggested that. It is unacceptable the material is not OK in a (top) professional team. Bike and sparebike. Shameful. Not for the first time. The youngster did react very well. It also shows he has character and personality. Comparable with Evenepoel.

You belgians understand nothing.

 

[Blanco]

O yes, you, Gargamel suggested that. It is unacceptable the material is not OK in a (top) professional team. Bike and sparebike. Shameful. Not for the first time. The youngster did react very well. It also shows he has character and personality. Comparable with Evenepoel.

Two clowns...
One is a great rider though.
Second is not, but he seems to think he is.

 

[Carols]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAIvDyXOqI8

Good show.

And thank goodness it was about Primoz. I haven't visited in a while and thought I'd somehow landed in the Cian thread!

 

[Rob5091]

Some interesting points made at
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...roglic-our-goal-is-to-win-the-tour-de-france/

Who will be Roglic's go to dom at the Tour? Hindley? He'll need someone reliable and Martinez has been iffy. Will Cian do the Tour or will he got shuffled off to the Giro with Vlasov? Could be more fireworks there between them two.

 

[Berniece]

Some interesting points made at
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...roglic-our-goal-is-to-win-the-tour-de-france/

Who will be Roglic's go to dom at the Tour? Hindley? He'll need someone reliable and Martinez has been iffy. Will Cian do the Tour or will he got shuffled off to the Giro with Vlasov? Could be more fireworks there between them two.

Cian is doing the Giro

 

[Lequack]

One week before the ski stars open the Alpine Ski World Cup season in Sölden, the BORA - hansgrohe cycling professionals will end their season. The eagerly awaited first appearance of the famous newcomer Primoz Roglic is also expected at the team camp.

BORA - hansgrohe superstar Roglic's first appearance in Ötztal

One week before the ski stars open the Alpine Ski World Cup season in Sölden, the BORA - hansgrohe

news.cision.com

Apparently he's going for first preparation with Bora this week already at Solden in Austria. They usually have a team camp there in mid October

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gs4FytdJSo

So apparently they started without him, or maybe he will show up later.

Without Primoz Roglic, BORA - hansgrohe and it's new signings assemble in Austrian Alps

At the end of October, a few World Tour teams begin already direct preparations towards 2024. Although Primoz Roglic was not present, BORA - hansgrohe has already taken many of it's new signings to th...

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