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So Vlasov said he won't work for Rogla unless his chances are gone, including the Tour 2024 and in races prior to the Tour. So there will be some inner team tensions that Rogla will need to deal with. I guess as expected.
Don’t be surprised if he attacks Roglic for his position. Although won’t happen since Roglic will wipe the floor with him in the first mountain stage.
 
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Don’t be surprised if he attacks Roglic for his position. Although won’t happen since Roglic will wipe the floor with him in the first mountain stage.

Likely not attacking, still i could imagine some reluctance to pull for Rogla, till Vlasov is still in contention. The question i guess is what does it mean, to be in contention. Podium, top five, top 10 ... So we will just have to wait and see.
 
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What part didn't you understand?
I also didn’t understand much. Up there - where? 1000% of what?

And how does the second part of your post (Rogla is up there at 1000%) correlate with the first part (the question which position you would like to be in most)?

Considering the fact there’s quite a lot of us who don’t understand your post, it’s probably writers fault not the readers, yes?
 
It's not even me, 5 people are now complaining about a transcript i did from a video. So best to take it to Lance.
First off, that was a terrible transcript. In fact reading what you wrote and what was said in the video makes it even more confusing. Second, I think you misunderstood the reasoning for why Armstrong said that as well just from listening to about 3 mins around that timeframe.
 
Can you explain in more detail, please. The confusing, terrible and the misunderstood part.
Go back and watch the part again listening to what is said and comeback to read what you wrote. What you transcribed reads like someone who barely understands English wrote it while missing all of the meat. Like how posters who speak other languages say the meaning is lost when transcribed to English.

Second, Armstrong picked to be in Roglic’s position because Armstrong would want to show his former team up and that they screwed up. Armstrong didn’t say that because he thinks Roglic is 100-1000% better than the others like you’re trying to make it sound.
 
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Go back and watch the part again listening to what is said and comeback to read what you wrote. What you transcribed reads like someone who barely understands English wrote it while missing all of the meat. Like how posters who speak other languages say the meaning is lost when transcribed to English.

Second, Armstrong picked to be in Roglic’s position because Armstrong would want to show his former team up and that they screwed up. Armstrong didn’t say that because he thinks Roglic is 100-1000% better than the others like you’re trying to make it sound.
Like for example creating Team RadioShack, he wanted to show Contador up with riders brought over from Astana and say Contador won because of them, not due to Contador being better in 2009.
 
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Go back and watch the part again listening to what is said and comeback to read what you wrote. What you transcribed reads like someone who barely understands English wrote it while missing all of the meat. Like how posters who speak other languages say the meaning is lost when transcribed to English.

OK i did that.

So i wrote that i was listening to The Move podcast, about 2024 season preview, and a question was asked in which position you would like to be the most, entering the 2024 season, to enjoy it most.

Sorry, but i just don't see it? The problem? How would you formulate it then? As a native speaker? Can you help me then, to improve my writing.

Second, Armstrong picked to be in Roglic’s position because Armstrong would want to show his former team up and that they screwed up. Armstrong didn’t say that because he thinks Roglic is 100-1000% better than the others like you’re trying to make it sound.

I see. At the and i wrote this:

And Rogla is up there. In between 100% and 1000%.

And i guess this is the part you had the most issues with? This was too much to chew on, just bone no meat? Roglič being in between 100% and 1000% "better", as you say it, compared to the others, at something.

Well, as explained earlier, to @Ilmaestro99, this was just a transcript. Other people words and opinions and not mine. And in addition the whole post had like 2 sentences in it. And it was explicitly stated, on what the question in the podcast was. So the post couldn't have applied on what you say it applied. You likely just seen the percentage and it was over ...
 
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OK i did that.

So i wrote that i was listening to The Move podcast, about 2024 season preview, and a question was asked in which position you would like to be the most, entering the 2024 season, to enjoy it most.

Sorry, but i just don't see it? The problem? How would you formulate it then? As a native speaker? Can you help me then, to improve my writing.



I see. At the and i wrote this:

And Rogla is up there. In between 100% and 1000%.

And i guess this is the part you had the most issues with? This was too much to chew on, just bone no meat? Roglič being in between 100% and 1000% "better", as you say it, compared to the others, at something.

Well, as explained earlier, to @Ilmaestro99, this was just a transcript. Other people words and opinions and not mine. And in addition the whole post had like 2 sentences in it. And it was explicitly stated, on what the question in the podcast was. So the post couldn't have applied on what you say it applied. You likely just seen the percentage and it was over ...

This is what you could have wrote:

I was listening to The Move podcast and they were previewing the 2024 Tour de France. A question was asked about which rider position you’d prefer to be in of the Big Four. Vingegaard as the two time defending champion, Pogacar to prove the last two years were a fluke due to tactical error and injury, Evenepoel as the young upstart like how Pog and Vinge were, or Roglic on a new team trying to show his old team they were wrong to give up on him and he’s not too old. Armstrong said he’d want to be in Roglic’s position 100-1000% in order to prove Jumbo wrong and to tell them to F off.


This is what you rambled off in some weird Roglic haze:
Was listening to The Move podcast, about 2024 season preview, and a question was asked in which position you would like to be the most, entering the 2024 season, to enjoy it most. And Rogla is up there. In between 100% and 1000%.



What was over was when I, like everyone else, read your ramblings and had no idea what you were talking about. Then you posted the timeframe and it all made sense, Armstrong said he’d be in Roglic’s position 100-1000% therego he is that much better is what you thought.
 
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That’s what you were implying.

That is simply not true. I explicitly stated on what the question was and on where it was asked.

Actually the question was; Which of the best four entering the race is under the most pressure? Armstrong's answer was Roglic.

Not true.

Where was that asked? I’ve watched from 26:00-29:30 and the question was, what position would you like to be in.

Exactly. And that is what i wrote. Some just seen 1000% and went ballistic ... Jumped the gun i guess. Internet does that to you, after years of abuse.

But all in all i like this approach, on where we all sit together, after reading a "book" and discuss, on how we interpreted it. Old school approach that still works wonders.
 
This is what you could have wrote:

I was listening to The Move podcast and they were previewing the 2024 Tour de France. A question was asked about which rider position you’d prefer to be in of the Big Four. Vingegaard as the two time defending champion, Pogacar to prove the last two years were a fluke due to tactical error and injury, Evenepoel as the young upstart like how Pog and Vinge were, or Roglic on a new team trying to show his old team they were wrong to give up on him and he’s not too old. Armstrong said he’d want to be in Roglic’s position 100-1000% in order to prove Jumbo wrong and to tell them to F off.

That is indeed much better @SHAD0W93. Thank you.
 
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I did not go ballistic.

I simply asked a question as to what you meant by your intelligible post.

I was grated with what seemed spam, lots of it. Nobody really bothering to say what have they done, so far. To understand it. So maybe some of you felt the heat for it. So i apologize for that to whomever it concerns.

And how have I abused the internet? Or it me?

This thread is not long enough, for having such discussion. In short, a couple of years back i started noticing cognitive impairment in general population. At that time i didn't connect the dots just yet. That it is basically due to screen time. In this day and age i now even see some TV shows and things like that. Where this is acknowledged as an oppressing problem. Unfortunately regardless of that Tik Tok is grinding away any remaining brain cells left. So in short, at least some of you should understand on what i was trying to say.

But i get it, maybe my brain was fried already, long ago. That is a possibility too. So all in all we will just have to cope with each other, continue the battle of stimulating the brain in some good way.

Rogla winning the Tour should help, brain fog to disappear.
 
I was grated with what seemed spam, lots of it. Nobody really bothering to say what have they done, so far. To understand it. So maybe some of you felt the heat for it. So i apologize for that to whomever it concerns.



This thread is not long enough, for having such discussion. In short, a couple of years back i started noticing cognitive impairment in general population. At that time i didn't connect the dots just yet. That it is basically due to screen time. In this day and age i now even see some TV shows and things like that. Where this is acknowledged as an oppressing problem. Unfortunately regardless of that Tik Tok is grinding away any remaining brain cells left. So in short, at least some of you should understand on what i was trying to say.

But i get it, maybe my brain was fried already, long ago. That is a possibility too. So all in all we will just have to cope with each other, continue the battle of stimulating the brain in some good way.

Rogla winning the Tour should help, brain fog to disappear.

Look, you have taken the deliberate choice of always writing grammatically poorly by never using subclauses in your sentences.

Then it seems fairly ridiculous that you take offense when people say they don't understand your posts from time to time.
 
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