Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[AmRacer]

Exactly.

So saying Jonas and Visma are not under severe pressure, to repeat it in 2024, considering all the circumstances involved, that is just BS.

So in "prep" races i would say Roglič is under the biggest pressure, to win. As that would signal Rogla and Bora are on the right track. At the Tour, there Jonas and Visma basically must win, otherwise the season is lost, for them. Unless i guess van Aert & Co. has a breakthrough and wins a lot.

Agree, especially when Visma isn't going to win the Giro.

 

[Oldermanish]

Agree, especially when Visma isn't going to win the Giro.

Well now happy accord can reign. As for Roglic; Red Bull's money definitely opens doors but the pressure coming with it will be on the entire team, too. Hopefully that is a good thing.

 

[Gargamel35]

Yeah it's pressure. But different kind. I think everybody (including Roglič and Bora) knows buying Roglič "to win the Tour" is a huge gamble move. If it happens, it will be a surprise (big one). So i don't really think pressure is that huge on Roglič or Bora to deliver. They both know, they are gambling here.

Roglič gets paid big in this two years and probably beyond. Yes, he can get paid more if he wins Tour, but despite that, he gets PAID. So there is no real pressure for him money wise.

The only real pressure is inside their heads and that is something every rider puts on himself.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@Gargamel35

If Bora would really be thinking like that, then i am sure that Rogla will sort them out ASAP. But i feel that both share the ambition and the dream, to win the Tour, good luck stopping them.

 

[Gargamel35]

@Gargamel35

If Bora would really be thinking like that, then i am sure that Rogla will sort them out ASAP. But i feel that both share the ambition and the dream, to win the Tour, good luck stopping them.

They probably do, but that is not pressure. Pressure is usually negative. What Roglič and Bora have is a positive ambition (dream).

 

[CyclistAbi]

They probably do, but that is not pressure. Pressure is usually negative. What Roglič and Bora have is a positive ambition (dream).

Yeah, but Rogla is in my opinion still pressuring them into winning the Tour. We'll see.

 

[Gargamel35]

Yeah, but Rogla is in my opinion still pressuring them into winning the Tour. We'll see.

If he does, he better delivers. It's going to be an awkward dinner, if he finds himself on the ground after 5 days.

 

[Oldermanish]

If he does, he better delivers. It's going to be an awkward dinner, if he finds himself on the ground after 5 days.

I guess you could ask Tadej and Remco how that feels, too. It's the risk any of them have with a focused event. At least it's not as risky as putting all of your hopes on the WRR win.

 

[CyclistAbi]

If he does, he better delivers. It's going to be an awkward dinner, if he finds himself on the ground after 5 days.

I took a look at stage 5 and i agree. Good call. It would indeed likely be a rather quiet dinner, as on stage 5 it's mostly Bora job to get Rogla through safely.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I took a look at stage 5 and i agree. Good call. It would indeed likely be a rather quiet dinner, as on stage 5 it's mostly Bora job to get Rogla through safely.

So if Roglic makes it to stage 6 it’s all in the bag so to speak eh?

 

[CyclistAbi]

So if Roglic makes it to stage 6 it’s all in the bag so to speak eh?

Stage 6 is again more or less about Bora getting Rogla through safely. Then a nice dinner, stage 7 is on where Rogla will have to deliver. Otherwise likely a quiet dinner to follow. We'll see.

 

[Netserk]

So if Roglic makes it to stage 6 it’s all in the bag so to speak eh?

Already in the trophy cabinet.

 

[johnymax]

View: https://youtu.be/NKHPyxGB-oE?si=dYb5D0cN2qQb3aAy

 

[Speadge]

If he does, he better delivers. It's going to be an awkward dinner, if he finds himself on the ground after 5 days.

Ambition for TdF is here, but I think they invested for more than just one TdF win. Where was LottoNL-Jumbo/TJV before Primož started to win?
With or without TdF he's bringing winning culture, experience ... tiny details which will shape BORA - hansgrohe (or whatever they will be called in the future) in years to come.
It's not just about TdF but investment in teams future. From interviews with Ralph Denk I would say they are aware of that.

 

[CyclistAbi]

It's about the Tour too.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Was listening to The Move podcast, about 2024 season preview, and a question was asked in which position you would like to be the most, entering the 2024 season, to enjoy it most. And Rogla is up there. In between 100% and 1000%.

 

[tobydawq]

Was listening to The Move podcast, about 2024 season preview, and a question was asked in which position you would like to be the most, entering the 2024 season, to enjoy it most. And Rogla is up there. In between 100% and 1000%.

What are you even trying to say with this post?

 

[DNP-Old]

I've read it about a dozen times and it goes way beyond not making sense.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I've read it about a dozen times and it goes way beyond not making sense.

All we need to know is Roglic’s between 100-1000% so I think @CyclistAbi means Roglic will win every race he takes part in due to his superior percentage.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So if Roglic makes it to stage 6 it’s all in the bag so to speak eh?

If Rogla navigates safely through stage 9 it's game over. But we know that Rogla is a generous guy and doesn't always want to crush his rivals. He prefers more suspence and some adrenaline (natural for an ex ski-jumper). That's why he gave the Tour 2020 to Pogi instead of crushing him earlier. That's why he waited till last kilometers to overtake Thomas at the Giro. Time will tell if he donates one more Tour to his rivals or decides to win it himself this time.

 

[CyclistAbi]

What are you even trying to say with this post?

We could work on your comprehension some more, but likely to no avail. Luckily @SHAD0W93 resolved the situation.

 

[CyclistAbi]

If Rogla navigates safely through stage 9 it's game over. But we know that Rogla is a generous guy and doesn't always want to crush his rivals. He prefers more suspence and some adrenaline (natural for an ex ski-jumper). That's why he gave the Tour 2020 to Pogi instead of crushing him earlier. That's why he waited till last kilometers to overtake Thomas at the Giro. Time will tell if he donates one more Tour to his rivals or decides to win it himself this time.

No rush.

 

[tobydawq]

We could work on your comprehension some more, but likely to no avail. Luckily @SHAD0W93 resolved the situation.

We could also work on your writing some more, but likely to no avail.

 

[CyclistAbi]

We could also work on your writing some more, but likely to no avail.

What part didn't you understand?

 

[CyclistAbi]

So Vlasov said he won't work for Rogla unless his chances are gone, including the Tour 2024 and in races prior to the Tour. So there will be some inner team tensions that Rogla will need to deal with. I guess as expected.