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Ah, a TT. Thats grasping at straws.

Considering Jonas Tour ITT performance and the fact he was winning everything in spring convincingly and considering this was basically the only stage they competed against each other. Why would it be grasping at straws? On the contrary it shows something else, Jonas is currently a bit overhyped, especially in regards to Rogla. Some people seem to believe Jonas in on another level, compared to Rogla. And then on the first chance Rogla got, he has beaten Jonas, convincingly.
 
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Considering Jonas Tour ITT performance and the fact he was winning everything in spring convincingly and considering this was basically the only stage they competed against each other. Why would it be grasping at straws? On the contrary it shows something else, Jonas is currently a bit overhyped, especially in regards to Rogla. Some people seem to believe Jonas in on another level, compared to Rogla. And then on the first chance Rogla got, he has beaten Jonas, convincingly.
You got it.
 
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Yes, he has now surpassed Vinge. Everything is good.

We can talk again at Vuelta 2024 or Tour 2025, still that was not the question. The question was so far and so far they raced half a stage race against each other and until the crash Jonas was not superior.
 
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We can talk again at Vuelta 2024 or Tour 2025, still that was not the question. The question was so far and so far they raced half a stage race against each other. Jonas was not superior.
I dont think this even was the question but feel free to continue.

He is better because he won a 10km ITT. It is all good.
 
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Considering Jonas Tour ITT performance and the fact he was winning everything in spring convincingly and considering this was basically the only stage they competed against each other. Why would it be grasping at straws? On the contrary it shows something else, Jonas is currently a bit overhyped, especially in regards to Rogla. Some people seem to believe Jonas in on another level, compared to Rogla. And then on the first chance Rogla got, he has beaten Jonas, convincingly.
C'mon mate, don't say Jonas is overhyped just because he lost one short hilly ITT in Itzulia, probably the one specific area where Roglic has been the best in the world. Besides that, TT setup from Visma is trash at the moment.
 
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Well you can always ask the cyclist that came second. Was he attacking and has just felt defensive action or was he under aggression. On what was the reason to finish second.

I dont think this even was the question but feel free to continue.

He is better because he won a 10km ITT. It is all good.

The question was when was Rogla better when he raced against Jonas. And so far the mentioned ITT is the only time they raced against each other.
 
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C'mon mate, don't say Jonas is overhyped just because he lost one short hilly ITT in Itzulia, probably the one specific area where Roglic has been the best in the world. Besides that, TT setup from Visma is trash at the moment.

Ah, so now it's the equipment.
 
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Well you can always ask the cyclist that came second. Was he attacking and has just felt defensive action or was he under aggression. On what was the reason to finish second.



The question was when was Rogla better when he raced against Jonas. And so far the mentioned ITT is the only time they raced against each other.

So every time there is a bike race there was an attack because someone finished second? :rolleyes:
 
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The question was when was Rogla better when he raced against Jonas. And so far the mentioned ITT is the only time they raced against each other.
Vingegaard finished ahead on the next stage though, therefore he must be better! Now what?

Point is we dont know yet and that is why was what posted doesnt matter, since they barely raced against each other in the same way that Pog has raced Vinge and likewise.
 
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Vingegaard finished ahead on the next stage though, therefore he must be better! Now what?

It works for me, that is you reconsidering and now to acknowledge you got the right answer, for the question you asked.

P.S. As for stage 2, on where Jonas finished 19 and Rogla 29. Indeed, at a first glance, that looks rather weak to me, both should do better.
 
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It works for me, that is you reconsidering and now to acknowledge you got the right answer, for the question you asked.

P.S. As for stage 2, on where Jonas finished 19 and Rogla 29. Indeed, at a first glance, that looks rather weak to me, both should do better.
Like I said above, you got it man. Have a cool evening.
 
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I don't think that was the main reason, at least not for the most vocal posters on this forum.
Definitely not. Also on other fora, people mostly had something against him because of his riding style.

People hating cyclists because they doped are often the more casual fans anyway. If you've intensively followed cycling for decades, and still feel hate towards every cyclist that doped you're a special kind of masochist imo 😄
(I make one personal exception for LA. But that's because he actually ruined other people's lives and careers, not because he doped.)