Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[zlev11]

I called that one immediately, and just like today it was both in line with the text of the rules and how they have been enforced. This one really shouldn't come as a surprise, and it thankfully won't matter anyway.

i agree, but there are people on here commending this call that were upset about the one at the Tour.

 

[jmdirt]

Were the rules around drafting toughened up this year? Nico Roche on comms was suggesting there would be a penalty when he saw he was behind the Bora car, that it was "no longer allowed" to use your own car that way. But I'm trying to think of other time penalties for that recently, perhaps Cav in the Tour after a mechanical (not that 30s to a sprinter is the same thing anyway).

Expecting the rules to be applied consistently within the same race is a stretch, expecting the same from race to race

 

[jmdirt]

You make a rule, the rule gets applied 1% of time, and when it does, it's somehow fair. That tracks perfectly.

This blatant example is only 1% of the infractions.

 

[JosefK]

Who is the greater threat to Rogla, now--O'Connor or Mas? I am thinking it's Mas.

 

[Rackham]

Not over yet.. I suspect stage 20 will be a "bad day" where Mas can gain some time.

Rog has a better team than Mas though to manage that sort of stage.

Also, despite all the hoopla surrounding the time penalty, I much prefer to see him lose 20 seconds on this sort of commissaire zeal rather than losing 20 seconds the way he lost them on the Angliru in the 2020 Vuelta (for example).

I think his form is fine going into the third week.

 

[Cookster15]

Who is the greater threat to Rogla, now--O'Connor or Mas? I am thinking it's Mas.

Agree. But has Mas had a bad day yet? And I think Mas will lose some time to Roglic in the TT.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Jackasses, penalising Rogla like that, especially considering he is basically a Spaniard by now.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Not over yet.. I suspect stage 20 will be a "bad day" where Mas can gain some time.

Roglic will not lose 3 minutes there.

 

[RJH]

Surprised to see Lipowitz that strong. He was super, that‘s clear, but nowadays he‘s almost world class. Climbs with Vuelta Roglic. He shows what‘s possible.

 

[Cookster15]

Not over yet.. I suspect stage 20 will be a "bad day" where Mas can gain some time.

So Mas doesn't have bad days - only everyone else? And don't forget Mas will lose time in the TT.

 

[dazaau]

Agree. But has Mas had a bad day yet? And I think Mas will lose some time to Roglic in the TT.

Mas had his bad day a few stages back when he initially followed roglic and then blew up and finished behind other GC contenders.

 

[Red Rick]

Actually had to rewatch, but launching full gas before the steep part even really started wasn't very smart it turns out.

 

[Lequack]

Actually had to rewatch, but launching full gas before the steep part even really started wasn't very smart it turns out.

He was forced by Lipowitz.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

He was forced by Lipowitz.

He can also tell him to go slower, he wasn‘t exactly opening himself to attacks by riding normally.

 

[saunaking]

I hope he doesn't lose because of the penalty (I don't think it will matter in the end).
But this is SD Worx level stupidity

 

[dazaau]

He was forced by Lipowitz.

As we now know from stage 4, no one asks Roglic

 

[Black Betsy]

I called that one immediately, and just like today it was both in line with the text of the rules and how they have been enforced. This one really shouldn't come as a surprise, and it thankfully won't matter anyway.

Having in mind what happened yesterday to the MotoGp race, I had to lol that Rogla was so naive in doing this...

 

[Berniece]

I don’t really see how Roglic can lose this anymore unless his back completely breaks down

 

[benzwire]

I don’t really see how Roglic can lose this anymore unless his back completely breaks down

I love Roglic, but NEVER underestimate the ability of this man to lose a race.

 

[tobydawq]

Actually had to rewatch, but launching full gas before the steep part even really started wasn't very smart it turns out.

He should have paced it steadily like Castrillo.

 

[Rackham]

Rest day video conference with the media:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VifTuTn1Mm8

 

[Red Rick]

Rog talking about time penalty with *** eating grin I am no longer mad

 

[jmdirt]

Having in mind what happened yesterday to the MotoGp race, I had to lol that Rogla was so naive in doing this...

Last years champion crashing out?

 

[JosefK]

I don’t really see how Roglic can lose this anymore unless his back completely breaks down

Agreed that Roglic will probably win the whole thing, but with Rog one can never be sure how the story will unfold. Most likely something like this: Rog and Mas duel evenly up to stage 20, when Mas puts in an attack and gaps Roglic, whose chain comes off just as he is responding. Attempting to put the chain back on, Rog is knocked over by a goat that has gotten loose, and the handlebars of the bike get snagged in the goat's collar. The animal drags the bike away and Rog has to wait for the team car to come up for a bike change. Rog rides the spare bike to the finish and loses two minutes to Mas. Next day, Rog puts 41 seconds into Mas in the TT and wins the overall by 1 second.

 

[Extinction]

Of course there are Style Points, contador scored a lot, froome not so much, I did not see pantani. But at the end of the day kicking the pedals hard does not give you that much room for finesse ana awe inspiring movement patterns as other sports. Of course its highly predictable that Simone biles wins, but even with no idea about the sport I can be stunned by her skills. Getting a calculator and realizing guys are doing incredible numbers is kinda mew in comparison, the fun lies elsewhere!

To the bolded, I must disagree. Everybody peddles the bike in their own manner. Sometimes you see a way of peddling that is extraordinary, the way the legs move, twitch, the way the upper body is hunched over. Pantani could have ridden in the 20s, 30s, 40s, or 90s, he was an old soul in a modern age. He looked so working class, like those that labor in the factories, and yet he had a certain nobility about him that was exceptional to say the least. And he was a tragic, meloncoly figure, whose suffering seemed to be linked to extirpating personal demons on the slopes of the Tour and Giro. By contrast, today they have perfected sport performance, but perhaps have done so at the expense of the truely beautiful.