Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[JosefK]

It feels like, overall, there has been an uptick in Rog's form as this Vuelta has gone forward.

 

[zlev11]

and that's why he doesn't attack sometimes

still in good shape though, might be able to take 43 seconds in the TT alone

 

[Ilmaestro99]

If I was a Roglic fan I would pretty comfortable with the current situation, has 1:40 on Mas and more than 2 minutes on everyone else, all of whom he can beat in TT. And he keeps making inroads into the lead of o Connor, the 43 seconds is a good TT + one attack/bonus seconds on a MTF

 

[Oldermanish]

and that's why he doesn't attack sometimes

still in good shape though, might be able to take 43 seconds in the TT alone

Stages 16,19 and 20 offer opportunity as well. He and Bora have done a great job of keeping their eye on the prize: a 4th Vuelta is legendary. Halving the GC deficit and keeping the other podium seekers at bay wasn't easy on this stage; too many guys had an easy ride up to the steeper stuff like some suggested.

 

[Rackham]

The organizers weren't happy home boy Mas didn't manage to drop Rog so they've added a 20 second penalty to Rog for drafting behind his team car after the bike swap.

I'm only half kidding as well (about the dubious nature of the penalty). I've never seen this sort of stuff 'enforced' like this.

 

[Red Rick]

Lets never enforce a rule until its specifically time to *** someone over

 

[Sciatic]

The organizers weren't happy home boy Mas didn't manage to drop Rog so they've added a 20 second penalty to Rog for drafting behind his team car after the bike swap.

I'm only half kidding as well (about the dubious nature of the penalty). I've never seen this sort of stuff 'enforced' like this.

I think the time loss is appropriate: not for the drafting but to penalize the stupidity of the tactic, forcing Roglic to chase back on right before the start of the climb

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Were the rules around drafting toughened up this year? Nico Roche on comms was suggesting there would be a penalty when he saw he was behind the Bora car, that it was "no longer allowed" to use your own car that way. But I'm trying to think of other time penalties for that recently, perhaps Cav in the Tour after a mechanical (not that 30s to a sprinter is the same thing anyway).

 

[Rackham]

Lets never enforce a rule until its specifically time to *** someone over

This right here is the truth.

 

[zlev11]

whatever. he just has to attack more now. let's enjoy the show.

 

[Berniece]

I don’t think it matters, he’ll win this rather easily knowing where he’s coming from

 

[ice&fire]

If it serves to get rid of the idiocy of 1x drive trains for road bikes, I'm fine with it.

 

[zlev11]

If it serves to get rid of the idiocy of 1x drive trains for road bikes, I'm fine with it.

only if we can get rid of disc brakes first

 

[ice&fire]

only if we can get rid of disc brakes first

Too late to stop that

 

[Valv.Piti]

Whe are doing conspiracy theories now or whats going on? Today was blatant and sets an example. You simply cannot do what he did today and thats very fair.

 

[Rackham]

Whe are doing conspiracy theories now or whats going on? Today was blatant and sets an example.

It'll be forgotten within five minutes.

There's no example here. Just like Josh Tarling's DSQ in Paris-Roubaix didn't unleash a new wave of commissaire strictness.

The hammer drops... in mysterious ways.

 

[Netserk]

It's a very normal sanction, and he didn't even do it after a mechanical. It's better tolerated if you draft the cars of other teams or briefly your own. This was full-tilt drafting of your own team car after a planned stop. It could only be worse if he took a sticky bottle or got a magic spanner à la Nibali.

 

[Gratemans]

I like Primoz a lot, but come on, they took a huge risk doing this. They know it's not allowed. It was a planned bike change. They know there's always camera's showing such situations.

Yes, rules are very often arbitrarily enforced in cycling. The thing is, Borah knows that! Everybody knows that!
Anyway, it's 20 secs. I doubt it'll make a difference.

 

[Red Rick]

Whe are doing conspiracy theories now or whats going on? Today was blatant and sets an example. You simply cannot do what he did today and thats very fair.

You make a rule, the rule gets applied 1% of time, and when it does, it's somehow fair. That tracks perfectly.

 

[Rackham]

You make a rule, the rule gets applied 1% of time, and when it does, it's somehow fair. That tracks perfectly.

Yeah everyone will sleep better tonight knowing the rules have been enforced & the regulatory sanctity of bike racing is safeguarded... & then go back to 'I don't give a cr*p about drafting, sticky bottles, riding on pavements' & all that stuff on Tuesday.

 

[Red Rick]

Obviously, this is a far less severe case, but it does remind me of Djokovic getting disqualified from the USO. People be saying it's fair, only for the next 10 incidents similar to that one to go without disqualifcation.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Why are people here acting like a rider voluntarily changing bikes at the foot of a MTF, blatantly drafting his own teamcar on TV to get back, and then not getting a penalty, is a frequent occurrence?

I've only seen this happen once, today, and he got the appropriate penalty.

 

[zlev11]

You make a rule, the rule gets applied 1% of time, and when it does, it's somehow fair. That tracks perfectly.

and then when they apply a rule that Roglic benefits from (TDF stage 11)? it's a bad horrible rule that needs to be changed!

 

[cen]

Not over yet.. I suspect stage 20 will be a "bad day" where Mas can gain some time.

 

[Netserk]

and then when they apply a rule that Roglic benefits from (TDF stage 11)? it's a bad horrible rule that needs to be changed!

I called that one immediately, and just like today it was both in line with the text of the rules and how they have been enforced. This one really shouldn't come as a surprise, and it thankfully won't matter anyway.