2022: He won't win another GT.
2023: Giro was his last GT win.
2024: Vuelta was his last GT win.
2023: Giro was his last GT win.
2024: Vuelta was his last GT win.
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Can they? I thought there is only one spot?It was not his kind of race and most likely did not rebuild shape after Vuelta. It was obvious that he is not in top shape in ITT.
2025 ITT should suit him well. I wonder if both Slovenians will start in it in 2025.
Yeah, it gets boring. One day, someone will be right for sure, but i think this is not the time yet.2022: He won't win another GT.
2023: Giro was his last GT win.
2024: Vuelta was his last GT win.
As he was with Van Gils in the group of 30 riders that finished 39th and down, I think they were detached when Evenepoel began attacking.I wonder if he just missed the right move when those 20 went away in the chase and just phoned it in, but I don't think he had much.
IMO he should normally be able to make that chase group at 2 laps to go, but he probably lacked endurance a lot. It's never been his strength, and he didn't get to rebuild it much for the Vuelta, which he won by just crushing everyone in fresh efforts.
I’m not the only one that’s said Bora was bad. Though I must have borrowed your eyes from the 2022 Vuelta. You’d think you’d be happy Roglic had arguably his second best Vuelta performance.ah alright, so it's just that your IQ matches the room temperature then. got it.
The guy had several hard crashes and had to quit the Tour. That's not ideal training to jump into a Vuelta and doubtful he's recovered from that effort. 2025 is a new year for everyone. Vingegaard has won how many GTs or major races this year? He's a question mark for 2025, too.IMHO, Roglic won his last big win in 2024 Vuelta. I feel he is fading, he is less consistent than ever, even in this Vuelta, he had some troubles occasionally. I will wait for his 2025 racing program to access how many wins he will get but if he races against Vingegaard or Pogacar all year, he will not get relevant wins, not even in Pais Vasco.
Depends on how long he wants to continue racing. From a statistical perspective it’d be nice to see him get TdS, TdF go for GC or stage hunt, and then fifth Vuelta and the record.What do you guys hope for Rog's career arc going forward? How competitive do you think he has to be in both/either GTs and/or prestige one-day races in order for his presence not to be icky/sad? Is there any risk that he'll carry on for too long and debase himself?
I can see him winning Giro and Vuelta if Pogi doesn't run.2022: He won't win another GT.
2023: Giro was his last GT win.
2024: Vuelta was his last GT win.
That's quite clear. It wasn't a moment that was caught too well on TV.As he was with Van Gils in the group of 30 riders that finished 39th and down, I think they were detached when Evenepoel began attacking.
I think he ran empty.That's quite clear. It wasn't a moment that was caught too well on TV.
There were some initial moves with MvdP on the rolling plateau, then Evenepoel and a few others bridged on the kicker before the main descent and Rog missed the move there.
Question is if he was just asleep at the wheel or just ran empty. At some point earlier I think the group was close to 20 guys and he was in it on top of Witikon then he did what Rog is prone to do and just parked it.
He didn't seem upset to say the least.
I'm by no means a stat nerd or even much of a basic records-checker (the now unrealized Remco Double-Double being an exception), but I wonder how long the typical GT-winner continues their career after last winning a GT, and how productive they remain in non-GT races. And then how long passes b/w when they last win any non-fixed criterium race and they retire.Depends on how long he wants to continue racing. From a statistical perspective it’d be nice to see him get TdS, TdF go for GC or stage hunt, and then fifth Vuelta and the record.
He wants Suisse so he can say he's the first one ever to have won all 7 big WT-races, before Pogacar does it basically.Suisse is what you think about when you havent won a GT in 4 years
Would love for him to race the Giro
It's the only one week WT race he hasn't won so far, so I think for him the standing of TdS might be bit higher in terms of career palmares.Suisse is what you think about when you havent won a GT in 4 years
Would love for him to race the Giro
It should not affect GT choice. That said, doing it after Giro seems much harder these days than beforeIt's the only one week WT race he hasn't won so far, so I think for him the standing of TdS might be bit higher in terms of career palmares.
Sorry but it doesn't matter if he wins all 7 one week stage races because there is no Tour in his palmares. A shame btw, he will never win a Tour when riders like Bernal won one year earlier from his terrible loss in FranceHe wants Suisse so he can say he's the first one ever to have won all 7 big WT-races, before Pogacar does it basically.
I would also like to see him do the Giro + Vuelta double. Pogacar and Vingegaard will probably do the TDF + Vuelta, and I can see Evenepoel go for Giro + TDF. Another Giro with Roglic and Evenepoel would be nice.
Doesn't matter to who? To you? He isn't doing it for you. He's doing it for himself, to write himself another time in the history books.Sorry but it doesn't matter if he wins all 7 one week stage races because there is no Tour in his palmares. A shame btw, he will never win a Tour when riders like Bernal won one year earlier from his terrible loss in France
Even if he wins, he will need the Tour to complete what is trying to achieve, winning all important stage races.Doesn't matter to who? To you? He isn't doing it for you. He's doing it for himself, to write himself another time in the history books.
There's a list of all big 1-week WT races, no one has ever won all 7. Apparently based on that interview he's going for it, he only needs Suisse.Even if he wins, he will need the Tour to complete what is trying to achieve, winning all important stage races.
Says who? This performance hasn't been done even by Merckx/Hinault etc. As for Tour the evolution of the mutants kinda *** him over. Bernal has Tour/Giro yet in GC tier list he is far behing Rog all-time. Tour is overrated only by casual fans. Fans who follow cycling know the level and how races are won.Sorry but it doesn't matter if he wins all 7 one week stage races because there is no Tour in his palmares. A shame btw, he will never win a Tour when riders like Bernal won one year earlier from his terrible loss in France
Why? He's not trying to be some all time great. Just a great rider that did something nobody else managed to achieve. Clearly he is not at the level of those like Contador, Froome , Armstrong, Indurain etcEven if he wins, he will need the Tour to complete what is trying to achieve, winning all important stage races.