Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

Page 812 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community.
Jul 16, 2015
5,374
13,954
23,180
I mean... I don't want to jinx things because this is cycling and even the best laid plans can backfire.

But he's going to win this bike race. He's riding passive and ignoring sprints against the UAE boys by design. It's all part of the plan and he's leaning on UAE and Ineos at the moment. I've been following this rider for a very, very long time and he's very intelligent.

Now maybe it won't work out but I guarantee you he's been working on his long range power. The hammer will drop next week. Expect Red Bull Bora hansgrohe to suddenly improve as a team as well.

That's my prediction anyway. And if it doesn't happen, then it doesn't happen. And the one thing that wasn't of course planned was the gravel crash but hey, these things happen.
 
Jul 16, 2015
5,374
13,954
23,180
Words from the man himself: https://vecer.com/sport/primoz-roglic-pred-slovensko-etapo-gira-pocasi-delujem-malo-boljse-10384073

"A very challenging end to the stage. It was a real struggle in the last 50km, but I'm satisfied. I'm slowly working a little better," Primož Roglič told Val 202. He admits that he can't match the Emirati youngsters in the sprints by seconds at the moment: "I don't have anything to look for there at the moment because they're really strong and explosive. But like I said, I've got to run my race and end up squeezing as much out of myself as I can." For Val 202, he also touched on his current physical condition after some of the punches: "It's definitely better than it was. I can still feel some parts of my body and muscles, but it's a little less every day. It's going in the right direction."
 
Jul 16, 2015
5,374
13,954
23,180
If we make a Venn diagram of people ignoring 2 crashes in the past week and people who will talk about that time Pogacar crashed 3 months before the Tour I think we get 1 perfect circle.

Yeah and this is no joke. It's not just Pog. I guarantee you we'll hear Vingegaard fans blame the Paris-Nice concussion if Pog dominates him this summer.
 
  • Like
Reactions: acm
Oct 2, 2020
2,486
4,513
12,180
I mean... I don't want to jinx things because this is cycling and even the best laid plans can backfire.

But he's going to win this bike race. He's riding passive and ignoring sprints against the UAE boys by design. It's all part of the plan and he's leaning on UAE and Ineos at the moment. I've been following this rider for a very, very long time and he's very intelligent.

Now maybe it won't work out but I guarantee you he's been working on his long range power. The hammer will drop next week. Expect Red Bull Bora hansgrohe to suddenly improve as a team as well.

That's my prediction anyway. And if it doesn't happen, then it doesn't happen. And the one thing that wasn't of course planned was the gravel crash but hey, these things happen.
It does seem like Rog isn't putting too much effort into the bonus sprints, but I'm also concerned about the condition of his injured shoulder. If it's really bad, that might preclude his being able to get out of the saddle for accelerations. At this point, he's shipped almost 1:40 to Del Toro. If the UAE rider doesn't fade, that's a big gap to take back. ... But we've seen Roglič resurrect himself before, so maybe it just makes for an exciting GC battle.
 
Last edited:
Jul 9, 2009
7,871
1,279
20,680
I mean... I don't want to jinx things because this is cycling and even the best laid plans can backfire.

But he's going to win this bike race. He's riding passive and ignoring sprints against the UAE boys by design. It's all part of the plan and he's leaning on UAE and Ineos at the moment. I've been following this rider for a very, very long time and he's very intelligent.

Now maybe it won't work out but I guarantee you he's been working on his long range power. The hammer will drop next week. Expect Red Bull Bora hansgrohe to suddenly improve as a team as well.

That's my prediction anyway. And if it doesn't happen, then it doesn't happen. And the one thing that wasn't of course planned was the gravel crash but hey, these things happen.
Since the first TT when Roglic had a :16 advantage on Ayuso Roglic has ceded a total of 1:13 to Ayuso. 1:15 was what he lost in the gravel, so he has picked up 2 seconds while being mostly invisible other than warming up for the second TT with a little impromptu body surfing. I feel like I've seen a lot more of Ayuso in the past week than I have of Roglic. I think Roglic is 1. biding his time and 2. just trying to recover from his crashes. We will see next week.
 
Jul 16, 2015
5,374
13,954
23,180
Since the first TT when Roglic had a :16 advantage on Ayuso Roglic has ceded a total of 1:13 to Ayuso. 1:15 was what he lost in the gravel, so he has picked up 2 seconds while being mostly invisible other than warming up for the second TT with a little impromptu body surfing. I feel like I've seen a lot more of Ayuso in the past week than I have of Roglic. I think Roglic is 1. biding his time and 2. just trying to recover from his crashes. We will see next week.

I posted my prediction because there's quite a few comments here and thereabouts online asking what the hell is going on with Rog and why he can't sprint anymore.

IMO Rog has taken a certain liking to spinning his pedals at a high cadence for longer efforts since the 2023 season. Monte Lussari being a sort of ground zero. He did it on the Angliru later that year and then in the Vuelta last year as well. But he also wasn't too bad on stage 11 of the TdF 2024 either when Pog lit things up 30k from the finish (you know, the one where he crashed at the end when he was with Evenepoel).

I'm just saying, I think that's the plan here. Now whether his injuries are too much of a hindrance or whether he just doesn't have enough in the tank to pull it off for various reasons, so be it. But I can see some logic in what he's doing based on what he's done over the past two years. Ignore the sprints and the time gaps basically and then go all in on one or two stages for the win.
 
Sep 12, 2022
8,183
9,693
17,180
I mean... I don't want to jinx things because this is cycling and even the best laid plans can backfire.

But he's going to win this bike race. He's riding passive and ignoring sprints against the UAE boys by design.
I think so too. His trainer even said he deliberately trained differently past year. Less explosiveness more long engine. If he has trouble on hard long mountain stages it’s over, but I expect him to drop everyone there.
 
Sep 26, 2020
25,347
27,865
23,180
I'm no Kate or any other type of bush, but I can rewrite lyrics just the same:

Pray God you can cope
I stand outside this Primoz's work, this Primoz's world
Ooh, it's hard on the fan, now haters are taking over
But the race will start soon for our Roglič

I know you have a little life in you yet
I know you have a lot of strength left
I know we're not even in week three yet
I know you're not into luck merchantry or theft

I should be crying, but I just can't let it show
I should be hoping, but why isn't he sprinting?
All the things I should've said that I never said (if I had spoken, I would have been in big trouble)
All the things he should've won that he never did
All the trophies he should have had, but he doesn't
Oh, Tarling, make him stomp again
And bring him to Rome free of pain
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: noob and CyclistAbi
May 29, 2019
11,182
11,692
23,180
Plan A for sure didn't involve crashes, injuries and a puncture. On top of that plan A likely didn't include such division of power in between teams. Said that things seem to be settling and the time to turn things around is just about right.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Berniece
May 29, 2019
11,182
11,692
23,180
Dominating would be if Roglic and Del Toro were swapped right now.

Could be, unless del Toro was a bit of a bait all along, now exposed? So all in all better if they swap towards the end of the race. Plus del Toro would never be in such position if Rogla wouldn't puncture, said that nice performance by del Toro and it will be a privilege beating him.
 
May 29, 2019
11,182
11,692
23,180
As for the stomp debate, don't give up guys, everybody needs a little bit of roglstomp in their lives. Opportunities at this Giro have been rather sparse and circumstances rather unfavourable, luckily some more opportunities to still come.
 
Apr 3, 2009
12,621
8,494
28,180
Plan A for sure didn't involve crashes, injuries and a puncture. On top of that plan A likely didn't include such division of power in between teams. Said that things seem to be settling and the time to turn things around is just about right.
So he’s what, 30 or so seconds down without all that? I’m guessing, I haven’t looked at the times.

Good TT. He’s strong. No excuses needed, he’s sure not making any.

But to this point, another rider has looked stronger.
 
May 29, 2019
11,182
11,692
23,180
Hmm. Fells a bit disingenuous TBH.

I mean why would you expect for Rogla to be down in time if plan A would went accordingly? Without crash on stage 9 Rogla would likely even contest for stage win. Without puncture he would at least be even with Ayuso. Point being don't act that if crash and puncture wouldn't have happened, that del Toro or Ayuso would be ahead at this point in time. Del Toro likely around a minute behind, Ayuso would be closer but likely not ahead. Anyway, plan A didn't happen, life happened. Rogla adapted and lets race. Who says that pushing the UAE duo back is out of the picture just because plan A didn't materialise. We'll see.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sandisfan