Good thing he's not in Aussieland getting crashed out like Gesink.
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Good thing he's not in Aussieland getting crashed out like Gesink.
His bike handling skills are so great that in his last race he managed to crash himself out in a group of 5 on wide roads.It's a shame Gesink got injured indeed. So early in the season. That probably comes down to Rogla being short of a great dom at Giro. Hopefully Gesink to be ready and motivated for Vuelta. Where such qualities will again be much needed.
As for Roglič crashing. It can happen as pro road cycling is a crash marred sport. But on the other hand Roglič doesn't crash a lot anymore. Hence i don't worry about this aspect all that much anymore. In regards to Roglič. He should in my opinion do just fine in 2023 and beyond.
His bike handling skills are now great. As for outside influence. I feel that that was settled in 2022 season.
No he didn't that was Fred Wright!!!His bike handling skills are so great that in his last race he managed to crash himself out in a group of 5 on wide roads.
He doesn't crash a lot anymore because he isn't racing. Last summer he crash left, right and centre.It's a shame Gesink got injured indeed. So early in the season. That probably comes down to Rogla being short of a great dom at Giro. Hopefully Gesink to be ready and motivated for Vuelta. Where such qualities will again be much needed.
As for Roglič crashing. It can happen as pro road cycling is a crash marred sport. But on the other hand Roglič doesn't crash a lot anymore. Hence i don't worry about this aspect all that much anymore. In regards to Roglič. He should in my opinion do just fine in 2023 and beyond.
His bike handling skills are now great. As for outside influence. I feel that that was settled in 2022 season.
Sure, but how is that relevant? Crashing when surrounded by riders left, right and center and crashing when the closest rider is more than 5m to your right aren't the same.Well let's not pretend that sprinters don't crash all the time, because they do.
I don't know about you guys, but I see a Giro winner in this picture and it's not Mo Cheeks.Spotted in Paris for the Chicago Bulls NBA game
Opi & Omi, Colbrelli, haybale, Wright ... this were much more severe crashes and all of them were assisted. Here bike handling skills don't play that much role.
He doesn’tYou know, it doesn't matter how many times you repeat it, doesn't make it true.
You are right about Wright, but your opinion on Colbrelli is based on zero facts. Just because it was Rogla’s fault in Wright case, doesn’t make Colbrelli any less (or more) ”guilty”…The vast majority of people agree that Wright wasn't at fault for that crash...
As for the "Colbrelli crash"; I will at most believe that there might have been some contact between them - like what happens in a peloton from time to time - not that Colbrelli deliberately made Roglic crash.
Does it matter what the vast majority of people think? We're all working on the same info, which isn't much. Blaming a popular young British guy so openly was a PR disaster, so you could say that Roglic must have been pretty convinced at least.You know, it doesn't matter how many times you repeat it, doesn't make it true. The vast majority of people agree that Wright wasn't at fault for that crash...
As for the "Colbrelli crash"; I will at most believe that there might have been some contact between them - like what happens in a peloton from time to time - not that Colbrelli deliberately made Roglic crash.
You are right about Wright, but your opinion on Colbrelli is based on zero facts. Just because it was Rogla’s fault in Wright case, doesn’t make Colbrelli any less (or more) ”guilty”…
Does it matter what the vast majority of people think? We're all working on the same info, which isn't much.
These are the two options? There's a lot of gray area in between. Nobody wants to make another rider crash (or if they do, they're insane). But that doesn't mean that they always act responsibly or without fault.I just generally feel like there are very few riders - if any - who would deliberately make another crash like that, for no apparent reason. And no, I'm not buying the "All Bahrain riders are out to get Roglic because he once pipped Mäder in the last few metres in a Paris-Nice stage!" talk. Come on...
So for me it's just a matter of "What seems more likely?"
A: That Colbrelli deliberately made Roglic crash.
B: That it was simply a touch of wheels.
Seems pretty obvious to me. And also, "innocent until proven guilty", and all that; since we have no way of proving Colbrelli guilty, let's just assume he's innocent in the matter.
I just generally feel like there are very few riders - if any - who would deliberately make another crash like that, for no apparent reason. And no, I'm not buying the "All Bahrain riders are out to get Roglic because he once pipped Mäder in the last few metres in a Paris-Nice stage!" talk. Come on...
So for me it's just a matter of "What seems more likely?"
A: That Colbrelli deliberately made Roglic crash.
B: That it was simply a touch of wheels.
Seems pretty obvious to me. And also, "innocent until proven guilty", and all that; since we have no way of proving Colbrelli guilty, let's just assume he's innocent in the matter.
That's not entirely true. There were people who were right there who agree it wasn't Wright's fault.
High praise you got there for Coby White.I don't know about you guys, but I see a Giro winner in this picture and it's not Mo Cheeks.
There are different levels of deliberate. It may not have been intention to crash him out. That was just the result. I also don’t think it was anyone‘s intention to crash the other guy but “touch of wheels” doesn’t mean noone is at fault. Rogla vs Wright was a touch of wheels also and it was Rogla’s fault…I just generally feel like there are very few riders - if any - who would deliberately make another crash like that, for no apparent reason. And no, I'm not buying the "All Bahrain riders are out to get Roglic because he once pipped Mäder in the last few metres in a Paris-Nice stage!" talk. Come on...
So for me it's just a matter of "What seems more likely?"
A: That Colbrelli deliberately made Roglic crash.
B: That it was simply a touch of wheels.
Seems pretty obvious to me. And also, "innocent until proven guilty", and all that; since we have no way of proving Colbrelli guilty, let's just assume he's innocent in the matter.
That's not entirely true. There were people who were right there who agree it wasn't Wright's fault.
These are the two options? There's a lot of gray area in between. Nobody wants to make another rider crash (or if they do, they're insane). But that doesn't mean that they always act responsibly or without fault.
Where do you stand on the Theo Bos-Daryl Impey incident?
Not much info? Multiple video angles in slow motion? We have plenty of info and the fault is obvious. The only people questioning the obvious are people letting their fandom for Roglič blind them to what their eyes are showing them, Or they’ve never raced a bike. Or both.Does it matter what the vast majority of people think? We're all working on the same info, which isn't much. Blaming a popular young British guy so openly was a PR disaster, so you could say that Roglic must have been pretty convinced at least.
Not much info? Multiple video angles in slow motion? We have plenty of info and the fault is obvious. The only people questioning the obvious are people letting their fandom for Roglič blind them to what their eyes are showing them, Or they’ve never raced a bike. Or both.