It's not the same thing. Nibali was producing in 2014 numbers very close to the numbers Contador and Froome were producing in they're prime.
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No, he wasn't. I can agree the gap is way bigger now between Rog and Pog/Vingo but Nibali wasn't at all in the same level as Froome or Contador (in 2014).
« Nibali, dernier
4e article de la chronique d'Antoine Vayer sur le Tour 2014 pour Le Monde, publié le 25/07/2014, après l'étape d'Hautacam : « Je vais dire à ceux qui ne croient pas au cyclisme, aux cyniques et aux sceptiques que je suis désolé pour vous. Désolé que vous ne croyiez pas aux miracles. » Sur...
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"With an average of 417 watts, the Italian is stronger than Christopher Froome who had nevertheless crushed the 2013 Tour with his 412 watts. His runner-up on the podium, Sunday, on the Champs-Elysées, will be more than seven minutes behind."
Oh please, not this again« Nibali, dernier
4e article de la chronique d'Antoine Vayer sur le Tour 2014 pour Le Monde, publié le 25/07/2014, après l'étape d'Hautacam : « Je vais dire à ceux qui ne croient pas au cyclisme, aux cyniques et aux sceptiques que je suis désolé pour vous. Désolé que vous ne croyiez pas aux miracles. » Sur...
"With an average of 417 watts, the Italian is stronger than Christopher Froome who had nevertheless crushed the 2013 Tour with his 412 watts. His runner-up on the podium, Sunday, on the Champs-Elysées, will be more than seven minutes behind."
Can we just stop with "Primoz is washed" nonsense again?
Only a crash can prevent him from winning his 4th Vuelta. Well done mate! Not his biggest fan but he was very agressive this Vuelta (he should be like this more often) and the only worthy winner!
This one (aka GT win) is pretty sweet, I have to say. He's been in control of this race since minute one & used his team perfectly - even today - when people were screaming DOOM online because Vlasov & Martinez dropped out.
The way he bossed that final climb was great to see.
The way he bossed that final climb was great to see.
Who were? They meant close to nothing when you have Lipo, but I think the main concern was that he álso got the bug.
Twitter & various forums. It's pretty obvious the excitement a lot of people online wanted from today's stage involved a scenario in which Rog had some sort of disaster.
But in any case, the internet is gonna internet & say sh*t stuff. That's nothing new. I'm just relieved this one has ended well. I was pretty stressed watching the stage but Lipowitz & Adria were great today.
Hopefully I'm not being a worrywart but I hope they identified where the salmonella came from very quickly and that Rogla didn't get in contact with it. That and I hope he'll stay upright tomorrow and it'll be smooth sailing to a glorious Vuelta victory no. 4! 
Remember when he trained to sprint in the two weeks between the Dauphine and Tour after the big 2 gave him a bath 😂
Hopefully I'm not being a worrywart but I hope they identified where the salmonella came from very quickly and that Rogla didn't get in contact with it. That and I hope he'll stay upright tomorrow and it'll be smooth sailing to a glorious Vuelta victory no. 4!
i've had salmonella, i think he should be able get through a 30 minute ITT fine if they load him up with enough ibuprofen. he might end up with brown shorts though.
I mean... it's ridiculous at this point. If it's not a haybale or some sort of freak accident which gets him, it's poisoning.
I mean I'm used to discussing whether he's recovered from a crash before a vital stage. Recovering from freaking salmonella is something new entirely.
Fortunately right now, it looks like Rog dodged the bullet & he isn't affected.
I mean I'm used to discussing whether he's recovered from a crash before a vital stage. Recovering from freaking salmonella is something new entirely.
Fortunately right now, it looks like Rog dodged the bullet & he isn't affected.
Remco managed to win a Giro TT while so sick that he didn't even wait for the day after the rest day to decide to quit the race.
He'll be fine.
I think some broadcasters were adding too much drama to events not unfolding. Didn't notice anything but chill analysis on NBC.
Early stage Coronavirus is not the same as the immediate and raging effects of food poisoning. Luckily it appears half the team didn't go to the shrimp buffet after a great stage 19.
He gained more respect with me. Skipping the shrimp buffet was the right thing to do, as shrimp and the like are properly disgusting.
Someone earlier here was talking about 'why' Bora bought Rog.
Tbh I think it's pretty self-evident: he scores.
Yeah it's not the Tour but when today goes as expected he'll have won the Dauphiné and the Vuelta this season. That's why they paid what they paid. It'll be Red Bull's first GT win and Bora's second. It's big for them.
It also totally cements his place in his team now. He's no longer "Rog who won stuff at Jumbo", he's now "Rog who wins stuff with Red Bull".
In any case his ITT start time today is 19:04.
Tbh I think it's pretty self-evident: he scores.
Yeah it's not the Tour but when today goes as expected he'll have won the Dauphiné and the Vuelta this season. That's why they paid what they paid. It'll be Red Bull's first GT win and Bora's second. It's big for them.
It also totally cements his place in his team now. He's no longer "Rog who won stuff at Jumbo", he's now "Rog who wins stuff with Red Bull".
In any case his ITT start time today is 19:04.
Really hope Rog' hasn't been debilitated by whatever strange illness is ripping through his team.
Just in case, though, I placed new (small) bets to win overall GC on O'Connor, Mas, and Carapaz.
Just in case, though, I placed new (small) bets to win overall GC on O'Connor, Mas, and Carapaz.
He posted a few photos from yesterday's stage in his stories section of Instagram about an hour ago (i.e. de facto meaning he's not in hospital with salmonella poisoning nor is he contorted in the bathroom in agony either). So I think you just threw away your (small) bets.
Knowing Roglic he could have whatever his team had yesterday and still compete and win the HR vuelta with the 2min buffer he has.
Yeah it's not like salmonella has an incubation time. The effects are pretty immediate. And very nasty.
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