A semi training block again today. Conditions not the best for Rogla and likely Remco was thinking if Pogi goes, nobody will help me bring him back so i will just go with Pogi and after initiated the attack on the very first climb out of four, reducing the bunch successfully, Pogi took on the offer and dropped the rest. Rogla chasing a wild goose from that far out made little to no sense, better to save the bullet for next Saturday and lets rather go all in over there. Reigning World and Olympic champion need some beating anyway, eating all that gummy bears, who better to do this job that someone that already was a World and an Olympic champion in his career.
-
The Cycling News forum is still looking to add volunteer moderators with. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to
In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.
Thanks!
Pog isn't even Rog's problem. He's going to be 35. He's had an amazing career (especially when you consider his origins in the sport). I mean.. chapeau Rog, really. 5 times GT winner & 88 career wins. Insane.
So no, Pog isn't his problem. Now for riders who're between 23 & 30... then yeah, Pog is a serious issue. He's everyone else's bogeyman. Aka The Baba Yaga of the peloton. Forget winning big races when Pog is on the startlist.
Yeah, obviously old man Roglic doesn't have to worry about competing with Pog anymore. It's a shame Pog insists on competing with him in races that he can realistically win, like Emilia.
Pog lost Emilia two years in a row, of course he wants Emilia.
You bring up a good point.
A few of Pogs competitors are either getting old or has suffered problems this season. Both when it comes to Roglic.
Except for the Tour with Vinge coming back to life from his injuries, Visma has had terrible luck all season.
Pog had problems last season etc but since gotten better.
The gaps and dominance is not surprising and quite logical, this year.
As for the age debate, remember guys, this used to be BS like Rogla crashes a lot and wheel sucks and things like that. Well, that didn't age well, did it.
First Il Lombardia then Rogla already said ToS next year will be the main goal, the rest is bonus. Things like Tour and Worlds should suit Rogla in the 2025 season. Although personally i don't know if i would rather see him win Tour Vuelta combo instead of focusing on the Worlds. But OK, all will be fine.
First Il Lombardia then Rogla already said ToS next year will be the main goal, the rest is bonus. Things like Tour and Worlds should suit Rogla in the 2025 season. Although personally i don't know if i would rather see him win Tour Vuelta combo instead of focusing on the Worlds. But OK, all will be fine.
Only 54 finished the race. All the others DNF including Remco, Rogla, etc. Weather was horrible and they were out of the fight for win anyway.
I believe that was Rog's first non-crash related DNF since the 2019 Worlds.
Great post! And this is what Remco diehard fans can't tolerate. Their boy will never win big races consistently because Pogacar is here until he retires (barring a career ending crash). Pogacar is only 16 months older than Remco.
I am sure that Rogla is still going to win races, regardless of who is on the start list. It comes with the age. For season 2024 it's important to win an one day race event. That would cement the migration from JV as being a total success. As for 2025 season it's early to think about that for now. During the winter a good plan to be made, then focus on oneself to prepare the best, hopefully for the team to again progress.
People have short memory, it used to be Jonas is unbeatable, now Pogi is supposedly unbeatable, before that Rogla was unbeatable. Still Rogla won a GT and week long stage race so far in the 2024 season. Only one additional cyclist can say that too.
P.S. As for DNF it's rather obvious, isn't it? Rogla was on Remco wheel.
People have short memory, it used to be Jonas is unbeatable, now Pogi is supposedly unbeatable, before that Rogla was unbeatable. Still Rogla won a GT and week long stage race so far in the 2024 season. Only one additional cyclist can say that too.
P.S. As for DNF it's rather obvious, isn't it? Rogla was on Remco wheel.
I don't believe this is necessary... and I also don't see it happening. I think he only has Lombardia left (I don't see Red Bull Bora on the startlist for Tre Valli and he's not mentioned in the preview either).
The migration from Jumbo was a success simply because he was able to pick up where he left and win a GT. That's what matters.
@Rackham
Still at his old team he was winning one day race events too, and AFAIK still being the last monument winner for the team. Personally i feel that Il Lombardia was the main goal all along and Rogla is using Worlds and beyond as prep races. Pogi is fatigued as it gets already and Remco likely won't peak again to such extend he would be able to beat Rogla. Descending good will be crucial this year, a lesson leaned from the last year. There is a section in there on where one will have to be top notch. We'll see.
Still at his old team he was winning one day race events too, and AFAIK still being the last monument winner for the team. Personally i feel that Il Lombardia was the main goal all along and Rogla is using Worlds and beyond as prep races. Pogi is fatigued as it gets already and Remco likely won't peak again to such extend he would be able to beat Rogla. Descending good will be crucial this year, a lesson leaned from the last year. There is a section in there on where one will have to be top notch. We'll see.
I'm all for some daydreaming about a result on Saturday... it's just I'm also a realist. I think the problem is Pog. It's not even just a straightforward case of racing for second when Pog is untouchable. The problem is when there's a group behind Pog after he's dropped everyone, it becomes rapidly uncontrollable and anyone can get on the podium of a one day race when everyone is racing for second.
I mean if things were simple to the point Rog could go for second or third on Saturday in Lombardia, then fine, go for it. But that's not the way these races unfold behind Pog when he's so dominant. Especially this year, aka the further away from the line his attacks are, the more uncontrollable things get behind him.
I think Pogacar's domination makes Roglic's 2021 Pais Vasco win even more impressive. Only rider not named Vingegaard to beat Pogacar in a stage race since 2020 Tour.
He can win another Olympics double next year.
I mean Rogla finished third last year and is likely (building) peaking towards Il Lombardia ever since finishing Vuelta. Anything else then going after the win is hence in my opinion a wasted effort.
But i hear you, what you are trying to say, that is unless Rogla feels super confident that he can drop Pogi on Sormano he should instead adjust the tactics to get relatively fresh to that point of the race and preferably for a "larger" group to go over it together. Then for lets say Dani to set him up on the ultimate climb. For that i feel that letting one (semi) good UAE rider in the relatively weak breakaway early and controlling that through the race, by setting weaker pace, might work. Maybe somebody like Hirschi or Ayuso. As indeed fatiguing Pogi tends not to work, frustrating Pogi might work, though. We'll see.
Rogla will apply long-range defence. He tried it in Emillia but next time it should be better.
TRENDING THREADS
-
Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread- Started by DNP-Old
- Replies: 29K
-
Teams & Riders The Great Big Cycling Transfers, Extensions, and Rumours Thread- Started by RedheadDane
- Replies: 11K
-
Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread- Started by LaFlorecita
- Replies: 51K
-
Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread- Started by Lequack
- Replies: 23K
-
-
Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives- Started by johnymax
- Replies: 19K
-
Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.- Started by Miburo
- Replies: 21K
Facebook
Twitter
Instagram