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Being in the first group during crosswinds either means that you are very good at positioning yourself or that you are riding for QS. Do you think any sprinter in this field wouldn't have been in the first group if he was riding for QS.DNP-Old said:Being alert, being in good position and therefore being in the first group isn't luck.Gigs_98 said:Say what you want but he was incredibly lucky today. He was one of only two sprinters in the group and the other one couldn't sprint because of richezeDNP-Old said:Mr.White said:DNP-Old said:Points jersey is not a goal for him. He wants to win at least three stages though.
Well it seems that winning one will be a task for him, let alone three...
Ah, so he was lucky he signed for Quick Step years ago, duly noted. Please. If you want to play the ''luck'' card, say something about Greipel having a mechanical or something. But calling one lucky for being in good position or for the team he is on, is hilarious and odd.Gigs_98 said:Being in the first group during crosswinds either means that you are very good at positioning yourself or that you are riding for QS. Do you think any sprinter in this field wouldn't have been in the first group if he was riding for QS.DNP-Old said:Being alert, being in good position and therefore being in the first group isn't luck.Gigs_98 said:Say what you want but he was incredibly lucky today. He was one of only two sprinters in the group and the other one couldn't sprint because of richezeDNP-Old said:Mr.White said:Well it seems that winning one will be a task for him, let alone three...
Maybe he'd like "Gavra"... A common nickname here, mostly related to names and family names, but better fitting to those of darker hair and skin, 'cause "gavran" here means the raven.DNP-Old said:Misil, which he really doesn't like.sir fly said:Does he have a nickname?
Oh c'mon. Do you mean this seriously? Ofc it's not a coincidence that he is in this team, but when I write he was lucky today I'm not talking about stuff, like that he signed for a specific team, which happened years ago. You acted as if Mr.White wrote nonsense when he claimed that it would be difficult for Gaviria to even win one stage, which was 100% reasonable considering he was pretty bad in the first two sprint stages, so I defended Mr.Whites post since Gaviria probably wasn't the strongest rider but still won because there was only one other sprinter in his group, and that other sprinter couldn't even sprint because of a douche move by Gavirias teammate. Then I didn't even say that he was lucky to be in the front group, just that other sprinters weren't in his group (which kind of includes the Greipel incident so no idea why you brought that up). And about positioning, as I said he was in this position because of his team and not because he positioned himself so well.DNP-Old said:Ah, so he was lucky he signed for Quick Step years ago, duly noted. Please. If you want to play the ''luck'' card, say something about Greipel having a mechanical or something. But calling one lucky for being in good position or for the team he is on, is hilarious and odd.
Yeah, after some mediocre - to say the least - leadouts from Richeze, he seems to have gotten his mojo back.Gigs_98 said:To be fair, it was almost impossible to lose the sprint after that leadout. Nevertheless a great performance.
Akuryo said:Who knows, Lefevere still hasn't secured sponsoring for next year. And even if he does, will he pay two sprinters? He likes to win everywhere and not just sprints. Gaviria AND Kittel may be too expensive for the rest of the team.
Jspear said:Akuryo said:Who knows, Lefevere still hasn't secured sponsoring for next year. And even if he does, will he pay two sprinters? He likes to win everywhere and not just sprints. Gaviria AND Kittel may be too expensive for the rest of the team.
If that's the case, I wouldn't let Gav go. He's so young and can get even better.
Pennino said:Jspear said:Akuryo said:Who knows, Lefevere still hasn't secured sponsoring for next year. And even if he does, will he pay two sprinters? He likes to win everywhere and not just sprints. Gaviria AND Kittel may be too expensive for the rest of the team.
If that's the case, I wouldn't let Gav go. He's so young and can get even better.
Indeed. This would be a no brainer.
Akuryo said:Who knows, Lefevere still hasn't secured sponsoring for next year. And even if he does, will he pay two sprinters? He likes to win everywhere and not just sprints. Gaviria AND Kittel may be too expensive for the rest of the team.
Pennino said:Jspear said:Akuryo said:Who knows, Lefevere still hasn't secured sponsoring for next year. And even if he does, will he pay two sprinters? He likes to win everywhere and not just sprints. Gaviria AND Kittel may be too expensive for the rest of the team.
If that's the case, I wouldn't let Gav go. He's so young and can get even better.
Indeed. This would be a no brainer.
yaco said:Akuryo said:Who knows, Lefevere still hasn't secured sponsoring for next year. And even if he does, will he pay two sprinters? He likes to win everywhere and not just sprints. Gaviria AND Kittel may be too expensive for the rest of the team.
Kittel is the pure sprinter while Gaviria will be just as good in the classics as in sprinting. They are different riders.
DNP-Old said:B-b-b-but his team. :sad:
Akuryo said:yaco said:Akuryo said:Who knows, Lefevere still hasn't secured sponsoring for next year. And even if he does, will he pay two sprinters? He likes to win everywhere and not just sprints. Gaviria AND Kittel may be too expensive for the rest of the team.
Kittel is the pure sprinter while Gaviria will be just as good in the classics as in sprinting. They are different riders.
Sure, but Kittel was a bargain, cause he wanted to go away from Giant at the end of 2015. That was the main reason QS got him and send Cav away. They are (in flat sprints) almost equally good but Kittel was a lot cheaper. That contract is set to expire now. Can or will Lefevere keep a one trick pony when you have Gaviria, who potentially can do it all?
Also Gaviria is still riding on his neo-pro contract this year. So to keep them both Quickstep would have to give both a (massive) raise. I just don't think they can afford both in 2018.