FIFA World Cup 2010

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joy118118 said:
dont think North Korea is weaker than Japan or South Korea.

They are ranked lower. I know the fifa rankings arent always accurate in ranking countries but they usually are effective if countries are in the same federation which japan, the republic of korea and the peoples republic of korea all are.
 
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Crap. I'm travelling tomorrow so I miss out on Chile's first match. I only hope they dazzle, mesmerize, and even mildly confuse under El Loco Bielsa's steady coaching hand.
 
Brazil has been unimpressive thus far.
North Korea appears very opportunistic. They're relying on counter-attacks rather than establishing anything on their own.

Can we tell the NK goalie to stop kicking the ball all the way to the Brazil keeper. Seriously.
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
Brazil has been unimpressive thus far.
North Korea appears very opportunistic. They're relying on counter-attacks rather than establishing anything on their own.

Can we tell the NK goalie to stop kicking the ball all the way to the Brazil keeper. Seriously.

One of the criticisms of Dunga has been that he has Brazil play a more European style rather than the more usual brand of Samba football.

Besides, Brazil currently lacks that lethal striker like they have had in the recent past like Ronaldo and Romario to name just a few. I can't really fault Dunga for being a bit more pragmatic.
 
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What an awful damn game that Ivory Coast - Portugal

The movement in midfield was good, but you can't get past a midfield like the ivorian that is purely defensive with 3 ball winners by not varying the play. When it wasn't working, the portuguese wouldn't get to ball to somewhere else and try again. They just kept trying through the same places again and again. Mostly through the center, sometimes the right, never the left. And Bruno Alves needs to step up into the midfield and offer another passing option. He's better with his feet than most midfielders, he needs to use that.

The few times they did get past the ivorian midfield and into the final third, the movement stopped and no one from midfield ran into the box.

Same old story with Queiroz's Portugal. Brilliant defense but no creativity, no ideas. Just the same predictable short passes to the same targets with no flow.

The problem here is Deco. He used to be a creative player, always unlocking defences with beautiful defence-splitting passes. Then he went to Chelsea and was turned into mr. sidepass. Exactly the same as Mikel, by the way. The one time he ran at the defence and tried a through ball, the danger was immediate.


Danny was very good at tracking Eboué and his tackling was good too. And offensively he needs to be the one in Deco's place. Deco needs to be benched. NOW.

Ronaldo needs to stop diving. It's annoying enough when Gerrard makes his impression of an Olympic diver, but Ronaldo manages to somehow be even more annoying. Must be the douche look and expression. Somebody should tell him about the boy who cried wolf. He dived so many times that by halfway into the first half he was being brutally fouled and not getting anything as the referee just naturally assumed he was still diving.

And he needs to remember he has teammates and pass the damn ball....and stop the circus tricks. They don't work.

Queiroz got his substitutions spectacularly wrong. If he did see what the problem was (I doubt it), he didn't do a damned thing about it and just substituted like player for like player to keepe everything exactly as it was.

Play this system against Korea and it's buh-bye Portugal.

Fair play to Eriksson, he got this Ivory Coast team organized, and well organized. Nothing to do with the horrific team that Halilodzic had going for the past months/year. He got the wingers to defend and that was the key.

The only problem is they're more boring and flavourless than boiled ribs.
 
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The Hitch said:
They are ranked lower. I know the fifa rankings arent always accurate in ranking countries but they usually are effective if countries are in the same federation which japan, the republic of korea and the peoples republic of korea all are.

Do you still think NK is weaker? Not many people pay attention to East Asia football. NK has much less races than SK and Japan. But when they play it seriously, they can be better than SK and Japan. They always are a team others cant look down on. IIRC many years ago NK got some good results in WC? :D

Never like Japan and SK. but very respect NK.
 
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workingclasshero said:
surely this makes no sense as new zealand were able to qualify as soon as they didn't have to face australia.

didn't new zealand play bahrain in the play offs? which means the play off opposition for oceania has changed and it would be too easy for australia to be in that section.

that said, i agree, they should stay 'at home' where they belong. and not pretend they're asian.

Yes it does. I'll explain the changes in Oceania qualifying. Back in 2006, the top 2 Oceania teams in pool stages played one another. Australia and New Zealand. Aus won and played the 5th South American Team. Uruguay. Two games, winner goes through. Uruguay scored at home, and on the return, Aus scored. Penalties ensued, we won. We go to 2006 WC.

Next year, 2007, Aus, switches to Asia region. However, NZ no longer has to beat the 5th ranked South American team. Asia asked for a rule change, FIFA agreed. Oceania winner had to play 5th ranked Asian team from the final pool qualifying that ended in 2009. Australia topped pool 1, Japan second. Both Korean nations topped the second pool. Third place in both pools squared off to decide who would challenge the Oceania champs. Bahrain and Iran I think. Bahrain won. Asian delegates thought this was a ringer, an easy win for their zone. They are not happy at all. They thought allowing Australia in Asia would mean more traditional Asian countries made the final 32. They thought poorly.

The Kiwis carved up Bahrain. Asian powerheads were very angry. They assumed Oceania was a walkover without Australia. Australia let one goal in during qualifying but still played very poorly. Casual followers at home thought us Aussies were doing well. Heck, we were the second team to qualify for Africa 2010 world wide...by a few hours after the Dutch. Truth is that Verbeek did not experiement. He brought back players who had retired from the national team and play for crap local teams, like Moore. We barely beat crappy Asian teams...sorry but they suck. We got results in qualifying and some in the media and fanbase foolishly justified that this was good enough. It wasn't, because the form and onfield guile was absent. We scrapped results against crap teams whilst showing next to no substance. A trait easily exploited by a competent team.

The way the Socceroos play sucks as well. Pim left our best attacking options out of the final 23 for Africa. He left the better attacking options on the bench versus Germany. Newsflash. Australia have been terrible the last 60 months. This was obvious well over a year back. All the major commentators had been saying this for over a year. Change was needed. Germany were made to look very good, better than their recent form suggested they were. Thankfully being a fan of the game, I enjoy watching masterful play, so I can cheer for someone else quite comfortably. But it sucks watching your nation embarass itself because of a few retards who cannot get their $h1t together. Did I forget to mention Australia is ranked 20 in the world. Over 15 places higher than the next best Asian team. My point is I knew we'd get wooped. Glad it happened. Maybe FFA can put in a proper development structure at grassroots level so this crap never happens again. Our nation went backwards. That doesn't gel well with our national psyche.

To anyone who will try and justify the coaches choices consider these facts. Verbeek is paid AUS $2,000,000 a year to fly around the world and pick our best players. He didn't, I can name 5 who didn't make the final 23. Our PM, albeit he is a moron and the worst in history, is paid a little over $400K. Verbeek qualified us against a weak Asian assortment of teams and gets to pocket 5 times the leader of our Government gets. Something smells wrong here. Accountability. There is none. Verbeek is a joke. Pray your team/country doesn't get him ever. He ruined South Korea's most gifted generation and took Australia backwards. Spread the word people.