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Oct 16, 2012
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Arnout said:
By the way, English gents among us, while I really like not having to sit through ads on the Beeb, do you like it as much as I do? Especially as they have to pay millions of pounds to get footage of this commercial event, they could earn back a big part of that expense by showing some ads around the game...

Id like it more if like you I didn't have to pay for it:(
 
Sep 9, 2009
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Arnout said:
By the way, English gents among us, while I really like not having to sit through ads on the Beeb, do you like it as much as I do? Especially as they have to pay millions of pounds to get footage of this commercial event, they could earn back a big part of that expense by showing some ads around the game...

Don't start that debate in this thread. But seeing as you did...

BBC tends to split on political lines - lefties have no problem with this particular poll tax because of the nature of it's coverage.

Right wingers tend to dislike, although many like it on tradition grounds.

Objectively, it's a pretty bonkers setup, but it's a brave government to get rid of this funding arrangement with so many media types can stick the boot in.
 
Jan 27, 2012
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gooner said:
John Giles over here said a good point about England man marking Pirlo. He said if they do it, Pirlo will move further forward from his deep lying midfield role and drag his man away which will free up space for Veratti to dictate the game.

I'm going for a Italy win.

England must find their own

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Jul 25, 2012
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Arnout said:
It's the same in the Netherlands, all matches are live on the government supported broadcaster, but they are allowed to show ads. I hate ads, but it does mean I have to pay less in taxes to see this WC.

Ads can easily bias the reporting and scheduling, I much prefer that the BBC is left impartial.


The BBC also produces some of the best TV in the world that likely would not be produced by commercial TV channels who don't like to take risks. Just look at David Attenborough's programmes.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
Don't start that debate in this thread. But seeing as you did...

BBC tends to split on political lines - lefties have no problem with this particular poll tax because of the nature of it's coverage.

Right wingers tend to dislike, although many like it on tradition grounds.

Objectively, it's a pretty bonkers setup, but it's a brave government to get rid of this funding arrangement with so many media types can stick the boot in.

That's surprising actually, as lefties should be worried about the poor. Less money to the BBC is more money to the poor.

I also think it's unfair competition (in the Netherlands, commercial broadcasters have no chance of outbidding the public broadcaster for events like this because of subsidies). But alright I will stop the debate ;)
 
Mar 10, 2009
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King Boonen said:
Ads can easily bias the reporting and scheduling, I much prefer that the BBC is left impartial.


The BBC also produces some of the best TV in the world that likely would not be produced by commercial TV channels who don't like to take risks. Just look at David Attenborough's programmes.

The BBC is far from impartial though (in fact, the current setup is very very inviting to government bias). Watch John Pilgers documentary on the role of the media in war for example...

Some of their documentaries are outstanding, I agree with that.
 
Jun 14, 2010
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King Boonen said:
As soon as the BBC start showing ads I'll stop supporting them.


The World Cup is guaranteed to be on terrestrial TV in the UK, it's on the protected list. I don't know how much they pay for it, but that must have a massive effect on the possible costs.

BBC sport lost all the support from me they could ever amass when they spend 1 million tax payers money to construct a lift for 2 weeks of the Euros to the studio.

Because their "panelists" didn't feel like walking up stairs. :rolleyes:
 
Jul 25, 2012
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Arnout said:
The BBC is far from impartial though (in fact, the current setup is very very inviting to government bias). Watch John Pilgers documentary on the role of the media in war for example...

Some of their documentaries are outstanding, I agree with that.

By impartial I mean not bought and paid for by a particular political thinking. There will always be bias in programmes, that's just human nature, someone has to have editorial power.

But yeah, lets stop, kick off soon.
 
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King Boonen said:
As soon as the BBC start showing ads I'll stop supporting them.


The World Cup is guaranteed to be on terrestrial TV in the UK, it's on the protected list. I don't know how much they pay for it, but that must have a massive effect on the possible costs.

Lucky for me, I can stay off the BBC and ITV as RTE over here show every game. The pundits don't pull punches either and wouldn't last 5 mins if they were on those channels.

ITV's coverage is dross.
 
Aug 29, 2009
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Arnout said:
It's the same in the Netherlands, all matches are live on the government supported broadcaster, but they are allowed to show ads. I hate ads, but it does mean I have to pay less in taxes to see this WC.

you have to pay a yearly fee to watch tv in the uk though, don't you?! It's the same in Germany for example. So those channels are not "free", even less as in the Netherlands where it is financed by tax money (as far as I know)
 
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Arnout said:
Lol. Mankind needs to live, too. That's not so say I agree with the tree cutting (in which Brazil has made big big strides) but come on why aren't we allowed to live in the rainforest?

Because we make everything kaputt what we touch or step onto...
 
Jun 15, 2009
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My favourite song this italian national anthem. But tonight I am all England. They got cheated out last WC, there is time for redemption for this soccer country.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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search said:
you have to pay a yearly fee to watch tv in the uk though, don't you?! It's the same in Germany for example. So those channels are not "free", even less as in the Netherlands where it is financed by tax money (as far as I know)

That's exactly the point, that yearly fee would be smaller if they allowed even 2 minutes of ads before and after the game. You're correct in the Netherlands, subsidy for government channels is included in the general taxation.

Anyway, game is starting ;)
 
Sep 9, 2009
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search said:
you have to pay a yearly fee to watch tv in the uk though, don't you?! It's the same in Germany for example. So those channels are not "free", even less as in the Netherlands where it is financed by tax money (as far as I know)

Indeed. You can't even watch other channels without paying for the BBC - I could very happily just watch Sky and would do so if they didn't send such rude threatening letters.

The BBC is sadly far too comfortable in making the same old Attenborough programme, the same soft left news coverage, and crap drama (when the private sector in the USA is currently revolutionising the quality of TV drama).

And we're off.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
Because we make everything kaputt what we touch or step onto...

Everything? Really? What's that rainforest around Manaus then?

We built some remarkable things too.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
Indeed. You can't even watch other channels without paying for the BBC - I could very happily just watch Sky and would do so if they didn't send such rude threatening letters.

That's just facism to be honest.
 
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One consequence of the BBC showing the World Cup is that Martin Tyler has a long stanging arrangement with SBS TV in Australia. He's probably my favorite commentator in any sport.
 

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