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Mar 19, 2009
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The Hitch said:
I just realized no Kaka or Robinho or Ronaldinho in Brazil squad.

Surely one of the first 2 at least should have made it :( Especially since Robinho always played better in a yellow shirt. This Brazil side isn't good enough that you don't pick one of those for experience.

They are simply not good enough anymore. Ronaldinho is still a genious with a ball, but he can't run anymore. Not fast and not a lot. Kaka even though he got better again, is only a shadow of his old self. He'd not start a single game if he was in that squad.
 
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Rechtschreibfehler said:
They are simply not good enough anymore. Ronaldinho is still a genious with a ball, but he can't run anymore. Not fast and not a lot. Kaka even though he got better again, is only a shadow of his old self. He'd not start a single game if he was in that squad.

Agree, I'm not critical of Scolari here, my criticism is more directed at not selecting the likes of Miranda and Coutinho as well as not getting Costa nailed down from not getting poached.

Plus, even with the players he has selected, Fernandinho should be ahead of Paulinho in starting eleven.

I thought Modric played well in the second half and it's a sad state of affairs for Brazil that they don't have one midfielder of similar nature to him, or Rakitic for that matter.
 
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Yeah I think Henrique as fourth CB is a weird choice, I do understand though that he took someone more versatile than Miranda. It also puzzles me why Maxwell and not Felipe, but in the end that really could come down to how well they fit into the team as humans, not footballers.

Coutinho is cool, it's interesting that they lack a second real CAM. But I guess the idea is that Oscar or Neymar will play there. And Coutinho for the wings ahead of those who have been chosen. No I on't see that.

I don't know what went on with Costa really, so can't say if you are right or not. ;)

Overall, I am underwhelmed every time I look at the players in the squad. They just lack greatness. And if Neymar is a very good or a great Player remains to be seen. He had one brilliant moment today. Besides that I think he has to up his game a lot. The only one who truly had a very good match for Brazil was Oscar in my opinion.

Also teams really should shoot more from distance against Julio Cesar. He's just not good at deflecting them at all.
 
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Rechtschreibfehler said:
I think it wasn't a bad start for the Brazilians. Never be good in your first games. Top form before the Quarterfinals usually means you won't win it. But well, top form they might need for the very hard first KO-Match.

They can play better than this, quite a lot. But the Game did show that the Brazilians are overall limited in their approach. Plus I don't see that they can afford to loose Neymar, or a really bad game by him. I thought Oscar was very good today, but still. This is not the same as it used to be.
What they really have to deal with is their openes on the flanks. Give Robben any space like this and you just might be dead. But it's also due to their interesting way to defend, they do open up space in dagerous areas sometimes, even though you have to be good to target them. I think they'd have great problems because of this especially against Germany. But well, we don't know if they will play against each other.
Brazil and Argentina are mostly seen as favourites because everyone believes that no European team can win in South America, a theory that I think is ********.

True, but it works both ways. Olic and Perisic did a great job marking Dani Alves and Marcelo and prevent them from going forward. Guys like Robben will never do that. Brazil was pretty good defensively overall imo. The offensive part was poor, except from Oscar, and Neymar in the first half. Fred (is this guy really the best they have?) and Hulk were horrible. But then again, they will get more space to work in against bigger teams of course.

Anyway, I like Croatia to go through to the next round. Nice team. Very well-organized and disciplined, but they will have to play a way more offensive game now.

FoxxyBrown1111 said:
Great decision. Same here.

I know :p
 
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True. Match fixing usually happens in way smaller games, and for betting. Match fixing simply to win a game is of a totally different order. And no way Brazil would think they need to buy a goalkeeper to win a match against Croatia.
 
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ILovecycling said:
That penalty was really lucky,on theother hand the referee didnt whistle few fouls,so almost fair enough.

Heh, with a tougher referee, Neymar would've been sent off in the first half.
With a half-decent Croatian goalkeeper, Brazil wouldn't have won even with that penalty.
 
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Jagartrott said:
Heh, with a tougher referee, Neymar would've been sent off in the first half.
With a half-decent Croatian goalkeeper, Brazil wouldn't have won even with that penalty.

you are so wrong in both points
 
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It was pleasing so see that we're off to a good start with blatant cheating from the officials in this World Cup. Can't wait to see a lot of other teams get shafted along the way.

Thought Brazil were the marginally better side, so probably deserved to win anyway.
 
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Brazil is really sucking these days ,they never have such a weak team but luck was on their side, that penalty gift+good performance by Neymar,Oscar and David Luiz save the day for them.With Mandzukic playing instead of freaking Jelavic Croatia could get more from this game.
 
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Brazil has a history of bad first matches at a WC, and then going on to the finals.


Cool trivia btw: more than 1 out of 3 players at the WC has multiple passports (nationalities). Of course lots of them is non-European players that take a Schengen passport to travel within Europe.

But still. For example Januzaj, who's in the Belgian selection, could choose to play for either Belgium, Kosovo, Albania, Serbia, Turkey, or (in a few years) even England. He grew up in Belgium though, and of all those teams of course Belgium is the only one that qualified.
 
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Buffalo Soldier said:
Brazil has a history of bad first matches at a WC, and then going on to the finals.


Cool trivia btw: more than 1 out of 3 players at the WC has multiple passports (nationalities). Of course lots of them is non-European players that take a Schengen passport to travel within Europe.

But still. For example Januzaj, who's in the Belgian selection, could choose to play for either Belgium, Kosovo, Albania, Serbia, Turkey, or (in a few years) even England. He grew up in Belgium though, and of all those teams of course Belgium is the only one that qualified.

Football globalisation at his might,national identitity in danger.
 
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Just wanted to comment that yesterday's game result looked "legitimate":D

all fair- 13 players against 11




2-1
 
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Buffalo Soldier said:
Cool trivia btw: more than 1 out of 3 players at the WC has multiple passports (nationalities). Of course lots of them is non-European players that take a Schengen passport to travel within Europe.

But still. For example Januzaj, who's in the Belgian selection, could choose to play for either Belgium, Kosovo, Albania, Serbia, Turkey, or (in a few years) even England. He grew up in Belgium though, and of all those teams of course Belgium is the only one that qualified.

I think everybody should have the same rights... ah no, no, this counts only for the oh so poor countries, battered by evil people from crazy countries like Italy, Germany, Austria or whatever. :rolleyes:
What a mess politicans do to the western civilization. Decline, decline, decline...

BTW, if I would apply for a Canadian passport, they would just say "Go phuck urself...". And you know what? They are right. Not everybody goes with that mish mash multi kulti murky BS that destroys national identities...

Look at Brazil yesterday. A proud country besides major problems, singing their anthem with full force. Awesome.
And I love Italy. They have deep pride too, and a wonderful anthem. and their supreme court ruled way back in the 70s, EU can go only so far. No touching of the national integrity. Though they got a hell lot of problems from the Bruxlles bureaucrats. But what to expect else, from a country that seems to bring out the worst of the bad often (King Leopold, Marc Dutroux, for example), thus they are the perfect beast to host the EU dictatorship facilities. I have nothing against the ordinary Belgians, they are just unlucky to have this guys destroying europe now, and Congo in the past...

Yeah, now hit back at me for my simplistic POV. :D

Anyway, I know it´s more complicated. Just need to hold up the mirror sometimes.
 
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I would be happy for the socceroos to score one goal against Chile. That would make getting up early worthwhile.
 
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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
I think everybody should have the same rights... ah no, no, this counts only for the oh so poor countries, battered by evil people from crazy countries like Italy, Germany, Austria or whatever. :rolleyes:
What a mess politicans do to the western civilization. Decline, decline, decline...

You are talking in riddles - again. Are you trying to say that only people in poor countries have the same rights (meaning non out of the Western point of you), or that they have the same rights and Europeans don't have have the same rights because the evil poor countries are allowed to come here and work, which out of the xenophobic point of view means being parasites? Or do you mean something else? But overall; what does this have to do with the topic?

BTW, if I would apply for a Canadian passport, they would just say "Go phuck urself...". And you know what? They are right. Not everybody goes with that mish mash multi kulti murky BS that destroys national identities...

I don't know about Canada, but surely you become a Canadian citizen? Maybe you are not allowed to have a second passport, but not being able to become a citizen, I truly don't believe this.
But also: what does a passport have to do with a "national" identity, what exactly is a national identity, and for long do you have to have one? Do you have to be a single state to have something like that? So is some kind of cultural identity not enough? And if you need to be one state and one culture, or maybe even only one state but not one culture. For how long does this have to be applied?

Look at Brazil yesterday. A proud country besides major problems, singing their anthem with full force. Awesome.
And I love Italy. They have deep pride too, and a wonderful anthem. and their supreme court ruled way back in the 70s, EU can go only so far. No touching of the national integrity.

I mean you do know that Brazil's population is made up of immigrants? Plus it's not so long ago that there was still slavery. From the Rules points of view very much not part of their culture or identity. So again? When does this "national identity" thing star, how does it have to come in place, and what exactly is it supposed to be? How does it work? What is the reality of that concept?

Though they got a hell lot of problems from the Bruxlles bureaucrats. But what to expect else, from a country that seems to bring out the worst of the bad often (King Leopold, Marc Dutroux, for example), thus they are the perfect beast to host the EU dictatorship facilities. I have nothing against the ordinary Belgians, they are just unlucky to have this guys destroying europe now, and Congo in the past...

I mean... come on. Use this "the own brain" you like to talk about. What does this brain own by the way? Everything in Brussels is done by Belgians and they of course produce Monsters. That's not even funny and in the first part simple wrong.

Yeah, now hit back at me for my simplistic POV. :D

Anyway, I know it´s more complicated. Just need to hold up the mirror sometimes.

You are not holding up a mirror. You're just uttering stuff in the form of some kind of pure opinion without any kind of argumentative structure too it. (I hope that formulation doesn't dissapoint you, you wanted to see me hot tempered :p )
 
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Rechtschreibfehler said:
But overall; what does this have to do with the topic?

Good ´ol Buffalo brought it up. Ätsch. And I loved to write against that crap... Remember this should be a national team championship, NOT a club championship.

And everything else, well... dream on... Come here to work. :rolleyes: Hohoho. Never been in Duisburg, Berlin, or Hamburg, right? Never heard of parallel Gesellschaften there, right? Never heard of Albanian family gangs, right?

You certainly live behind bars to protect yourself. From there it´s easy to be political correct. Au weia!!!

And don´t call me xenophobic. That´s the "argument" of the losers.
I (and many, many, many others) have nothing against europe and the originals who built up their countries with hard work after WW2 (only to see their work erased by politic puppets obeying big business), but against the EU dictators that plays the poor non union workers coming in, against the (still a little bit organized) EU workers. The whole thing is big business, salary dumping for bigger profits. It´s NOT against rascism, not in the name of freedom and unification (this lie is repeated only for naive people like you). It´s a simply trick to get a rift between the people...
 
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MBotero said:
I would love to see something like this but Spain looks too strong,anyways we can dream,i hope at least for a draw.
I am thinking that Holland might get a decent result here. Might put a cheeky bet on them since I got a little bit of cash to play with after putting $100 on Brazil to win 3-1 :)
 
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"Tropic Thunder" at Natal before Mexico-Cameroon,anyways Mexico for the win.It seems Chicarito will be on the bench and wtf Carlos Vela not even selected in WC team:confused: