FLandis letter, links

[laura.weislo]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-littman/lance-armstrongs-hunter_b_591660.html

 

[Escarabajo]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-littman/lance-armstrongs-hunter_b_591660.html

Good read. Especially this part:

Memo to Lance: Drug investigations are built on the testimony and evidence of men and women who take drugs. They are rarely nice people. They often lie, in part or in whole, but their testimony often leads to snaring the big fish.

 

[thehog]

But I just heard this:

There will be an announcement on Monday that Armstrong is under official investigation and will face US Federal probe. He will be asked to return to the US for questioning.

Sports Illustrated will also print an online story spanning several pages into all of the Armstrong investigations over the years and join some of the dots on the information we now have from Landis. Apparently there will be some big revelations.

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I'll post the link as soon as I've been given the all clear.

 

[Digger]

This took balls in 1999:
http://velocitynation.com/content/features/2010/flashback-99-tom-goldman-and-npr

 

[Polish]

"The Greeks had their gods and heroes. Twelfth-century Frenchmen celebrated dragon-slaying knights. We moderns have sports heroes. Friedrich Nietzsche explained it all in 1883: Every culture needs the uebermensch (“over-man”) to make lesser mortals – the rest of us – feel pride in our shared humanity."


http://www.businesspundit.com/could-doping-be-effectively-legalized-regulated/

 

[theswordsman]

A link to a scan of L'Equipe with Manzano testimony in French. @FestinaGirl on twitter says

The original Manzano testimony - USPS/Kelme had a mole in the lab to tip them off about testing

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24768737/Jesus-Manzano-Testimony

 

[MarkGreen0]

Landis revelations do not nullify blood passport, anti-doping expert says

Landis revelations do not nullify blood passport, anti-doping expert says

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features...ullify-blood-passport-anti-doping-expert-says

 

[Parrot23]

Even the "highbrow" entotainment mainstream media are getting involved.

http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/the_awful_truth/b183483_will_lance_armstrong_be_investigated.html

"Livestrong—with drugs"

It's going to be hard for Higgins and Stapleton and that public relations firm of theirs, et al, to hire enough trolls to combat this (like Polish and gree0232, etc., to name just two):

 

[thehog]

Even the "highbrow" entotainment mainstream media are getting involved.

http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/the_awful_truth/b183483_will_lance_armstrong_be_investigated.html

"Livestrong—with drugs"

It's going to be hard to hire enough trolls to combat this:

Our good friends at MuscleProd getting involved also:

http://www.musclesprod.com/news/did-lance-armstrong-cheat-too/


"The response from Armstrong is the classic deny, deny, deny. In fact, Not only is Armstrong taking the deny it approach, his team is standing by him and bolstering the denial. Team RadioShack released a statement saying, “after not getting what he demanded when no one in cycling capitulated to his numerous but persistent false threats, demands and rants, Floyd Landis publicly aired the false and incredible concoctions he has been privately making for years.” RadioShack noted that Landis has accused at least 16 professional cycling individuals and organizations of activity that is “baseless and quite simply untrue.” But…. And this is a big “BUT”– Jeff Novitzky is on the case. The thing with Novitzky is that he likes going after the biggest name athletes he can get in his sights. He’s like the federal big game hunter, only seeking the biggest juiciest quarry. Bonds was huge for Novitzky. Even though his hunt for Bonds came up very very short, Novitzky did have the good fortune of opening up the BALCO case as a result of his hunt for Bonds, and did end up putting several others in jail for their involvement – or lying about their involvement. But he never got Bonds. And he never will. But, now, Lance Armstrong is big game just like Bonds. Same level, maybe even bigger. And if he goes after him he’s got the thing he didn’t have going after Bonds – witnesses willing to testify."

 

[Polish]

"As one cheat commenting on another, disgraced Swiss cyclist Thomas Frei understands why American Floyd Landis wanted to confess, but his accusing of others is “sad”."

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/sport/Swiss_cycling_world_considers_Landis_fallout.html?cid=8928788

"Ian Blackshaw is a member of the Switzerland-based Court of Arbitration for Sport and is an international sports lawyer. He argues that cases like Landis’ should be handled within “the family of sport” and that Landis’ “gun-blazing” is doing more harm than good."
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[tubularglue]

http://interceder.net/news/Pat-McQuaid

Times online story:


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/cycling/article7139602.ece

"Landis and Novitzky are in constant contact, according to American media. “Daily, several times a day, the feds are waiting to see who comes forward,” the New York Daily News reported.

By his own admission, Armstrong has given significant funds to cycling’s world governing body. There is confusion over the exact sum. Armstrong has said that he donated $25,000 to the UCI, but Pat McQuaid, the organisation’s president, has stated that the donation, made in 2005, was $100,000. McQuaid said that $88,000 of that was used to buy anti-doping equipment, but Sylvia Schenk, the former head of the German cycling federation and a member of the UCI executive at the time of Armstrong’s donation, maintains that there was no transparency or documentation to clarify the use of the cash.

“To my knowledge there were no documents presented up to now,” Schenk said last week. “The UCI was always very proud of its accounts — why have these documents not been made public in the last five years?”

 

[Colm.Murphy]

Pierre Ballester weighs in (in French).

http://www.cyclismag.com/article.php?sid=5841

 

[scribe]

Geez. Mostly bad news for Floyd in the typical google news search.

http://blogs.bettor.com/Floyd-Landis-disassociated-from-Bahati-Foundation-Cycling-a11803

http://www.nctimes.com/sports/other/net/article_d223bd9a-f6a0-5855-bc42-ae2a7d1a2b48.html

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/opinion/2010/05/29/et-tu-floyd/

 

[Race Radio]

trolling and baiting

The idea of this thread is to post links and media updates, not to troll, bait, or debate

The original article


http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/feb/13/1s13landis01134-after-losing-everything-cyclist-ai/

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jeremiah-Weed-Bourbon-Whiskey-prnews-2936658766.html?x=0

Today, Jeremiah Weed, the original Southern Gentleman and proud father of Jeremiah Weed Bourbon Whiskey and Cherry Mash Bourbon Whiskey, publicly demanded a formal apology from shamed cyclist Floyd Landis for falsely blaming whiskey as a possible cause of his positive test for synthetic testosterone in 2006, which resulted in the stripping of his 2006 Tour de France champion title.

 

[thehog]

This.

A number of postings violating this have been deleted.

Susan

So far, the Floyd Landis case is sticking to the script.

You know how it goes. First come the accusations and or failed drug test. Then come the deeply sincere and emotional denials. Then comes the admission. And then — and this is where it gets good — he points the finger at others and everyone runs for cover. Immediately, the accused, as well as officials from the sport in question, challenge the accuser's credibility and call him vindictive.

He lied and cheated previously, and he's a bad guy, blah, blah, blah; how can we believe him now?

That's what they said about Jose Canseco, Ben Johnson, Victor Conte, Brian McNamee, Tim Montgomery, C.J. Hunter and the rest of them.

They all pointed the finger at steroid users and named names.

They were called liars and scumbags. It was said they couldn't be believed.

Canseco, Johnson, Conte and the rest of them had one other thing in common: They were right.


http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...story-warns-us-to-listen-to-Floyd-Landis.html

It is hardly a stretch to believe that Armstrong is doping. But it is a stretch to think that he isn't.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

Another article cautioning that Landis could be right.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700036948/Doug-Robinson-History-warns-us-to-listen-to-Floyd-Landis.html

 

[peloton]

Pound interview
http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/06/news/****_pound_interview_2010_119685

 

[Colm.Murphy]

Lemond feels vindicated:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2010-06-03-greglemondreaction_N.htm

 

[thehog]

The Hog speaks:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/4...ated-by-Landis-allegations-says-Bruyneel.aspx


Armstrong has not enjoyed his best start to the year, being forced to abandon most of his spring schedule through illness, followed by the crash in California. Bruyneel is not worried though, as he sees the American is up for the Tour and he thinks he knows why. "His tremendous motivation especially strikes me,” he explained. “Maybe that strength also comes from the remarks of Floyd Landis.”

Further than that Bruyneel is not prepared to discuss the Landis allegations, other than to dismiss them as he has done before "For us, the case was closed," said Bruyneel. "We will no spend more energy in the case,” he said. “As for Lance, we know that he performs best when he feels exasperated. I notice that now.

"This is perhaps the biggest boost in view of the Tour," he continued. "When he feels unfairly attacked, then he is at his best on the bike. If he also spared from crashes and setbacks, then fine."

 

[thehog]

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Only links, please.

Lance at 2:52.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b184273_truth_lies_ted_kstew_bad_news.html

They know something yes?

and Crowe things he's a bad lover. Ouch! First LeMond and now Crowe.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

Versus CEO commenting on Landis and 2010 TdF coverage. Interesting due to the advertisers he references and their obvious connection with LA. Will take comments in another thread.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/453350-NHL_Continues_To_Light_Lamp_For_Versus_Davis.php

 

[peloton]

Cycling Weekly has been able to confirm that Landis is co-operating with Jeff Novitzky, a federal investigator with the Food and Drug Administration in the United States.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...esented-by-the-same-legal-team-as-lemond.html

 

[Colm.Murphy]

NY Daily News jumps in with more:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2010/06/07/2010-06-07_floyd_landis_adds_legal_muscle_in_face_potential_legal_challenges.html

 

[thehog]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h7Jk4YzjY3Q_DpRRWcoWvoA76_cgD9G76REG0

Verdruggin responds.