Frank schleck

[Red Rick]

It wasn't meant that serious

 

[rhubroma]

According to cyclingnews.com the drug is not banned on WADA's list, though the Italian dailes say it is a "sostanza proibita" (prohibited substance). Where? On the UCI's list, Mars? Venus?

Anyone know?

 

[argyllflyer]

RSNT statement:

Our team attaches great value to transparency. Because of this, we can announce the following as a response to the adverse analytical finding of xipamide in Fränk Schleck's urine sample of July 14 during the Tour de France.

After being informed by the UCI about the presence of xipamide in the urine sample of Fränk Schleck on July 14, the team has decided to immediately withdraw Fränk Schleck from the Tour de France.

Even though an abnormal A sample does not require these measures, Mr. Schleck and the team believe this is the right thing to do, to ensure the Tour de France can go on in calm and that Fränk Schleck can prepare his defense in accordance with the legal timing to do so.

On the subject of xipamide the team can declare the following: it is not a product that is present in any of the medicine that the team uses and the reason for the presence of xipamide in the urine sample of Mr. Schleck is unclear to the team. Therefore, the team is not able to explain the adverse findings at this point.

However, the team is fully determined to collaborate with the anti-doping agencies in order to resolve the matter.

 

[Red Rick]

Meh, why Frank? If it was RSNT they could have used easier methods to spike him.

I'd say this theory is way to outlandish.

Lol, i wasn't being serious

 

[DominicDecoco]

Kim Andersen knows nothing - that be the positive test itself and xipamid.

http://feltet.dk/nyheder/kim_andersen_kender_ikke_noget_til_sagen/

 

[noddy69]

I know there is no way to win these arguments, based on a clear right/wrong. There can be many reasons though, maybe Schleck went to a normal doctor asking for treatment after his fall, because there was water in or near his wound. If that's the case, I don't see any reason to ban him. I know you do, but I don't, as I don't care about the strict legal consequences of actions, but about the intention.

Unfortunately that is what gets people off, excuses on intention. I stand by my view that riders know what they are taking and so any medication should be screened first. Its not difficult.Logic applied would tell you there is a reason it wasnt declared when he took what he did and it wouldnt be a misunderstanding.
But thats just my opinion.

 

[HL2037]

The timing and the other circumstances - has Bruyneel/mcQuaid written all over.

 

[roundabout]

It does not appear on the WADA list as far as I can determine.

While it doesn't explicitly say xipamide, it would certainly fall under thiazides.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

RSNT statement:

PS - we are still not paying you.

 

[argyllflyer]

According to cyclingnews.com the drug is not banned on WADA's list, though the Italian dailes say it is a "sostanza proibita" (prohibited substance). Where? On the UCI's list, Mars? Venus?

Anyone know?

According to this:

http://www.theathlete.org/banned_drugs/xipamide.html

Substances within it are banned by IOC. How do they relate to WADA?

 

[Epicycle]

According to cyclingnews.com the drug is not banned on WADA's list, though the Italian dailes say it is a "sostanza proibita" (prohibited substance). Where? On the UCI's list, Mars? Venus?

Anyone know?

Diuretics include:
Acetazolamide, amiloride, bumetanide, canrenone, chlorthalidone,
etacrynic acid, furosemide, indapamide, metolazone, spironolactone,
thiazides (e.g. bendroflumethiazide, chlorothiazide, hydrochlorothiazide),
triamterene; and other substances with a similar chemical structure or similar
biological effect(s) (except drospirenone, pamabrom and topical dorzolamide and
brinzolamide, which are not prohibited).

http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/World_Anti-Doping_Program/WADP-Prohibited-list/2012/WADA_Prohibited_List_2012_EN.pdf

 

[spalco]

Holy ****. I would not have expected that. Not because I think he's clean, but because he's too crafty. Would've thought the same about Contador though.

 

[Dalakhani]

Just yesterday, Jens was on ITV saying this is a clean tour... ouch!

But, seriously, being caught being both crap and cheating...

 

[Arnout]

Unfortunately that is what gets people off, excuses on intention. I stand by my view that riders know what they are taking and so any medication should be screened first. Its not difficult.Logic applied would tell you there is a reason it wasnt declared when he took what he did and it wouldnt be a misunderstanding.
But thats just my opinion.

I know about the excuses. Like I said, I understand the purpose of a list and of rules. Ultimately I'm not interested in them, though.

 

[Franklin]

I'm very curious about what it can mask (and how fast it works). Is it very effective?

 

[webvan]

On the subject of xipamide the team can declare the following: it is not a product that is present in any of the medicine that the team uses and the reason for the presence of xipamide in the urine sample of Mr. Schleck is unclear to the team. Therefore, the team is not able to explain the adverse findings at this point.

CYA...i.e. FS is alone now...

 

[thehog]

CYA...i.e. FS is alone now...

They got sloppy without the Hog at the Tour.

 

[pastronef]

The downside for this is that the Germans were about to dip their toe back in the water by supporting a new team. That is probably dead now.

yep. this is a blow, still not big, but the germans will think twice...

 

[Franklin]

CYA...i.e. FS is alone now...

Utterly disgusting. As I said, the team management and the doctors walk away.

 

[ElChingon]

"Amigo de Brillo", its the 2006 backdated payday for you.

 

[roundabout]

CYA...i.e. FS is alone now...

Well, apart from Astarloza, I think, it's more or less a typical response. "Sorry, you're on your own now."

Certainly the unpaid moneys and rumor of a new team would make shack even less likely to be sympathetic.

 

[offbyone]

Well that explains why the Schlecks seem to annually go from having horrible no form to perfect form with very little time in between.
But really, why bother if he, according to himself, wasn't even planning on contesting the tour? What a dumbass. Both Schlecks should get lost.

 

[sniper]

They got sloppy without the Hog at the Tour.

totally my thoughts.
that's why all teams need well organized doping structures.
once the structure falters, accidents happen.

 

[Benotti69]

I predict Frank Shcleck to get no ban...........












....after he talks to USADA about the Hog

 

[sniper]

Utterly disgusting. As I said, the team management and the doctors walk away.

+1 to this.