Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[The Hitch]

Re:

https://twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/940892178829729792

The responses to his non-statement are pretty hilarious.

John Swanson

I like the "Don’t believe you would dope or cheat in any way, shape or form".

Funny, I personally Don’t believe he could ride up a mountain clean or not cheating, in any way, shape or form,

 

[Catwhoorg]

Anywhere in the range of a slap on the wrist, to about 2 years.
Most likely ~6 months backdated to date of test in my opinion.

 

[ScienceIsCool]

Re: Re:

https://twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/940892178829729792

The responses to his non-statement are pretty hilarious.

John Swanson

I like the "Don’t believe you would dope or cheat in any way, shape or form".

Funny, I personally Don’t believe he could ride up a mountain clean or not cheating, in any way, shape or form,

My favourites are:

"Live Strong"

and

"I bet Wiggo is enjoying his breakfast this morning"

John Swanson

 

[Catwhoorg]

But one thing is for sure:

Any "explanation" for the high sample is going to have to also show why he has a lifetime of tests below the threshold.

 

[Roland Rat]

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Kept quiet for almost 3 months too...hmmmm.

He was notified of the "adverse analytical finding" on 20 September 2017.
the BBC reports

B sample testing can take a while, and for a non-specified substance like salbutamol with no provisional suspension, there should not be any publicity until the B sample is in.

I guess that's now why it's public:

"The analysis of the B sample has confirmed the results of the rider’s A sample and the proceedings are being conducted in line with the UCI Anti-Doping Rules."

The true victim in all of this is poor Cardoso who's still sitting there waiting for his B sample.

also quintana who was robbed of 2 tdfs by a doping cheat

Struggling to think of Quintana as a victim, that's like saying Zulle was robbed by Larry, or Beloki was robbed by Larry, or Kloden was robbed by Larry, or Froome was robbed by Wiggins etc.

 

[Angliru]

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Strip him of the Vuelta. His levels were above the limit. I hope UCI does make an example.
What I don't understand is: why claim to do Giro Tour double while knowing he might be facing a potential ban?

...because they/he think that they are above the law, special, unique, exceptions to the rules. They likely thought "Oh, this will blow over. It's nothing"

 

[Melo]

 

[Climbing]

If they get away with this, I'm truly done with "pro" cycling.
Hopefully Sky will crumble.

 

[The Hitch]

Awesome.

 

[veji11]

It is pretty clear to me that ASO will not let him ride the Tour de France whatever the end result in terms of sanctions. It might be a safety measure actually, the guy would get clobbered byt fans along the road.

 

[King Boonen]

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It is pretty clear to me that ASO will not let him ride the Tour de France whatever the end result in terms of sanctions. It might be a safety measure actually, the guy would get clobbered byt fans along the road.

I'm not sure ASO have the authority to decide that.

 

[Red Rick]

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Precedent tells us that sanctions for salbutamol are hard to predict.

Agreed.

Al we know is there's a positive test, sanctions have been dealt out for less, and minimum sentences have doubled?

Also Ullisi cooperated and got it down from 2 years to 9 months.

This wil drag on for long. I think 2 years would be curtains for Froome as winning GT rider.

 

[Angliru]

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So, Sky, zero tolerance would mean terminating Froomes contract, right?

Sure. Just like the not hiring staff/riders with tainted pasts, transparency, etc.....

 

[LaFlorecita]

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It is pretty clear to me that ASO will not let him ride the Tour de France whatever the end result in terms of sanctions. It might be a safety measure actually, the guy would get clobbered byt fans along the road.

They allowed Berto so not sure why they wouldn't allow Froome

 

[DenisMenchov]

OMG, who would have thought that FROOME of all people was doping. It's not like he was invincible for the past 3 years, oh, wait. He was, seems real now.

 

[Red Rick]

Nibali:

"It had rained during those day in Spain and so it seems difficult that he suffered with asthma. I’ve got the same problem but when it rains the pollen doesn’t cause any problems and you don’t even need to take one puff of Ventolin,” Nibali said, according to Tuttobici.

"For sure this is a terrible news for the sport and for me."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nibali-chris-froome-salbutamol-case-is-terrible-for-the-sport/

Daniel Friebe‏
@friebos

Note that Nibali's comments have now been edited on @tuttobiciweb_it website, with reference to Nibali's allergies and Ventolin removed. Curious...but guess that means they were originally "misreported" or have been withdrawn.

https://twitter.com/friebos/status/940917470277373952

Still though, I love how Nibali goes balls deep with his statements.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Not sure if it has already been posted. But thought Jörg Jacksche's tweet was interesting. "Never forget the bloodbag leftovers in your calculations". Interesting view IMO.

 

[King Boonen]

Not sure if it has already been posted. But thought Jörg Jacksche's tweet was interesting. "Never forget the bloodbag leftovers in your calculations". Interesting view IMO.

Certainly a possibility too.

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

It is pretty clear to me that ASO will not let him ride the Tour de France whatever the end result in terms of sanctions. It might be a safety measure actually, the guy would get clobbered byt fans along the road.

They allowed Berto so not sure why they wouldn't allow Froome

He was already getting booed hard as hell this year. Imagine next year.

 

[miguelindurain111]

Re: Re:

Precedent tells us that sanctions for salbutamol are hard to predict.

Agreed.

Al we know is there's a positive test, sanctions have been dealt out for less, and minimum sentences have doubled?

Also Ullisi cooperated and got it down from 2 years to 9 months.

This wil drag on for long. I think 2 years would be curtains for Froome as winning GT rider.

"However, Italian Leonardo Piepoli avoided any ban when reportedly returning levels of salbutamol similar to those by Froome, having successfully explained the reasons for the abnormal test."

So there's a chance I can enjoy Froome's performances even next year :lol:

 

[Yingge]

CN maybe published this a bit early :

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chris-froome-wins-cyclingnews-rider-of-the-year-in-2017-reader-poll/

 

[brownbobby]

Not sure if it has already been posted. But thought Jörg Jacksche's tweet was interesting. "Never forget the bloodbag leftovers in your calculations". Interesting view IMO.

Certainly a possibility too.

Hmmm....but if he was reinfusing a bloodbag, surely said bloodbag would have been withdrawn at a time when he was far out from any competitive event or heavy training blocks. So, presuming the salbutamol is being used for the short term and immediate boosts it (highly debatably) brings, would seem unlikely that he'd have such high levels in his system at the time of withdrawing the bloodbag for storage?

 

[Alexandre B.]

Re: Re:

Precedent tells us that sanctions for salbutamol are hard to predict.

Agreed.

Al we know is there's a positive test, sanctions have been dealt out for less, and minimum sentences have doubled?

Also Ullisi cooperated and got it down from 2 years to 9 months.

This wil drag on for long. I think 2 years would be curtains for Froome as winning GT rider.

Abnormal, not positive.

Still I just can't see how he can retain his Vuelta victory.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

Is Salbutamol even considered a PED? Are there any scientific studies done that shows it to be effective in aiding performance? I've a feeling they could get away with this.

 

[brownbobby]

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Is Salbutamol even considered a PED? Are there any scientific studies done that shows it to be effective in aiding performance? I've a feeling they could get away with this.

Performance enhancing or not,that debate will continue to rumble on but is now irrelevant in this case. The rules are there and precedent has been set. The onus of proof is now on Froome, and if Froome cannot prove that he did not exceed the permissible doseage, then i don't see how he can possibly get away with it.