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Who are we kidding?S2Sturges said:spalco said:El Pistolero said:You can't blame people taking justice into their own hands when the courts failed.
Uh, yes, you certainly can. I would at least.
eta: And the courts haven't failed here (yet). I don't think he's getting off, and I hope he won't ride the Tour if the case hasn't concluded before july.
Listened with great interest to Paul Kimmage’s interview, he certainly isn’t one to mince his words or not make his feelings known, and he’s right to do so, this whole Froome affair stinks. I do, however, wonder somethings maybe more enlightened forum members could clarify.
Can the ASO just not invite him to their races, Le Tour and others? it’s their race, if they feel someone is a detriment to the race, can the ASO tell the teams that..?
If he has his legal team drag out possibly indefinitely their defense and he’s free to race, what’s to stop the ASO from saying,
ah, not this year, Chris….
What might be the legal obligations of race organisers during say, the Giro, if the tifosi get out of hand, knock him off his bike and injury him so he can’t continue, with finish that race or continue for future races… ?
If it’s proven that Froome was specifically the target of wrath, can Sky sue the race organisers if he has to stop racing either, at that race or any others….
I guess the last big question was why didn’t the UCI suspend him right after the AAF, other than Cookson sitting on the findings and wishing would all blow away/ I admit my obvious lack of knowledge in the workings of all these organisations, but should not the new president of the UCI, reacted to that news immediately..?
Again, apologies for asking possibly daft questions..
Escarabajo said:Who are we kidding?
9 month ban, lost Vuelta, lost medal, no fee to participate in Giro and allow him to race in France. They were throwing urine and spitting at him without a positive. Imagine what would happen in those mountains next year if he participates.
Escarabajo said:Who are we kidding?S2Sturges said:spalco said:El Pistolero said:You can't blame people taking justice into their own hands when the courts failed.
Uh, yes, you certainly can. I would at least.
eta: And the courts haven't failed here (yet). I don't think he's getting off, and I hope he won't ride the Tour if the case hasn't concluded before july.
Listened with great interest to Paul Kimmage’s interview, he certainly isn’t one to mince his words or not make his feelings known, and he’s right to do so, this whole Froome affair stinks. I do, however, wonder somethings maybe more enlightened forum members could clarify.
Can the ASO just not invite him to their races, Le Tour and others? it’s their race, if they feel someone is a detriment to the race, can the ASO tell the teams that..?
If he has his legal team drag out possibly indefinitely their defense and he’s free to race, what’s to stop the ASO from saying,
ah, not this year, Chris….
What might be the legal obligations of race organisers during say, the Giro, if the tifosi get out of hand, knock him off his bike and injury him so he can’t continue, with finish that race or continue for future races… ?
If it’s proven that Froome was specifically the target of wrath, can Sky sue the race organisers if he has to stop racing either, at that race or any others….
I guess the last big question was why didn’t the UCI suspend him right after the AAF, other than Cookson sitting on the findings and wishing would all blow away/ I admit my obvious lack of knowledge in the workings of all these organisations, but should not the new president of the UCI, reacted to that news immediately..?
Again, apologies for asking possibly daft questions..
9 month ban, lost Vuelta, lost medal, no fee to participate in Giro and allow him to race in France. They were throwing urine and spitting at him without a positive. Imagine what would happen in those mountains next year if he participates.
Angliru said:Escarabajo said:Who are we kidding?S2Sturges said:spalco said:El Pistolero said:You can't blame people taking justice into their own hands when the courts failed.
Uh, yes, you certainly can. I would at least.
eta: And the courts haven't failed here (yet). I don't think he's getting off, and I hope he won't ride the Tour if the case hasn't concluded before july.
Listened with great interest to Paul Kimmage’s interview, he certainly isn’t one to mince his words or not make his feelings known, and he’s right to do so, this whole Froome affair stinks. I do, however, wonder somethings maybe more enlightened forum members could clarify.
Can the ASO just not invite him to their races, Le Tour and others? it’s their race, if they feel someone is a detriment to the race, can the ASO tell the teams that..?
If he has his legal team drag out possibly indefinitely their defense and he’s free to race, what’s to stop the ASO from saying,
ah, not this year, Chris….
What might be the legal obligations of race organisers during say, the Giro, if the tifosi get out of hand, knock him off his bike and injury him so he can’t continue, with finish that race or continue for future races… ?
If it’s proven that Froome was specifically the target of wrath, can Sky sue the race organisers if he has to stop racing either, at that race or any others….
I guess the last big question was why didn’t the UCI suspend him right after the AAF, other than Cookson sitting on the findings and wishing would all blow away/ I admit my obvious lack of knowledge in the workings of all these organisations, but should not the new president of the UCI, reacted to that news immediately..?
Again, apologies for asking possibly daft questions..
9 month ban, lost Vuelta, lost medal, no fee to participate in Giro and allow him to race in France. They were throwing urine and spitting at him without a positive. Imagine what would happen in those mountains next year if he participates.
It was probably warm beer but he should be alright at the Tour as ASO doesn't want any rider assaulted so will be pepared.
It didn't sound good when I wrote it.spalco said:Escarabajo said:Who are we kidding?
9 month ban, lost Vuelta, lost medal, no fee to participate in Giro and allow him to race in France. They were throwing urine and spitting at him without a positive. Imagine what would happen in those mountains next year if he participates.
Is that your opinion or your nightmare scenario?
Escarabajo said:It didn't sound good when I wrote it.spalco said:Escarabajo said:Who are we kidding?
9 month ban, lost Vuelta, lost medal, no fee to participate in Giro and allow him to race in France. They were throwing urine and spitting at him without a positive. Imagine what would happen in those mountains next year if he participates.
Is that your opinion or your nightmare scenario?
There are worse things that could happen to somebody but for the doping offense that he did plus his image is tarnished forever (officially), I'd say is a bad outcome.
Robert5091 said:Escarabajo said:It didn't sound good when I wrote it.spalco said:Escarabajo said:Who are we kidding?
9 month ban, lost Vuelta, lost medal, no fee to participate in Giro and allow him to race in France. They were throwing urine and spitting at him without a positive. Imagine what would happen in those mountains next year if he participates.
Is that your opinion or your nightmare scenario?
There are worse things that could happen to somebody but for the doping offense that he did plus his image is tarnished forever (officially), I'd say is a bad outcome.
Is it not a tradition that multiple Tour winners get punched?
https://www.bicycling.com/racing/2015-tour-de-france/who-punched-eddy-merckx
I didn't say that and certainly I didn't see it in the answers to my post either.Alpe73 said:Robert5091 said:Escarabajo said:It didn't sound good when I wrote it.spalco said:Escarabajo said:Who are we kidding?
9 month ban, lost Vuelta, lost medal, no fee to participate in Giro and allow him to race in France. They were throwing urine and spitting at him without a positive. Imagine what would happen in those mountains next year if he participates.
Is that your opinion or your nightmare scenario?
There are worse things that could happen to somebody but for the doping offense that he did plus his image is tarnished forever (officially), I'd say is a bad outcome.
Is it not a tradition that multiple Tour winners get punched?
https://www.bicycling.com/racing/2015-tour-de-france/who-punched-eddy-merckx
So ... some members of the clinic would like to see Froome roughed up a bit out on the road?
Remember .... these are elite, 1 in a million athletes. If he does get punched, wouldn’t be surprised to see Dawg flick out a nasty Froch, Groves jab.
“Punching Spectator Arrested After Being Decked by Froome: Dawg Wins Stage”
Ouch! :lol:
veganrob said:Can you show where anybody in the clinic said they would like to see Froome roughed up?
The Hitch said:Robert5091 said:Aaaahh! Now I get the 'slithering reptile' http://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/42363825 insult ...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/chris-froome-rider-on-the-storm-10415129.html
As a boy, Chris Froome had two unusual pets: a pair of pythons. They needed feeding, and their meals had to be alive. Mice at first, then rats. But as they grew they needed something more filling. So he raided the rabbit hutches in the kindergarten across the road.
“Young children would arrive at the class next day and their little baby bunny rabbits would be gone,” he wrote in last year’s autobiography, The Climb. The rabbits would squeal as the snakes tucked in, he recalled. “I felt like intervening and stopping it. But the pythons had to be fed and it was my responsibility.” From the outset Chris Froome did what had to be done.
It does somewhat annoy me that people laugh and mock this story even celebrate Froome. It was awful behaviour even by child standards and the pride with which an adult Froome recounts killing animals for fun at such a young age is disturbing.
What was worse about the pythons in my opinion is Froome also used to feed them live prey - mice and such.
I'm with animal rights activists that this is a practise that should be forbidden.
He boasts in his book that he remembers the shrieks of the dying animals. Killing animals to eat them is one thing but to torture animals as a teenager and not feeling anything, then even boasting about it years later suggest he might be as depraved as some of his fans.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/ot...to-tour-de-france-stage-victory-34870952.htmlChris Froome fined €184 for punching idiotic fan on way to Tour de France stage victory
Didn't think so. lad. hahahAlpe73 said:veganrob said:Can you show where anybody in the clinic said they would like to see Froome roughed up?
No? Not one? Anyone? Last call ...
Then, that’s my bad, VegR.
Damn glad to hear that news, lad.
Are you saying domestic abuse is taking place in the froome house? What a shocking allegation to makeGraftPunk said:No one wants Froome to get beaten, lord knows the abuse he probably already suffers at the hands of Michelle...
Robert5091 said:2016
https://www.independent.ie/sport/ot...to-tour-de-france-stage-victory-34870952.htmlChris Froome fined €184 for punching idiotic fan on way to Tour de France stage victory
Who's started it? :lol:
Chris Froome could be risking a longer ban as he tries to clear his name in his unfolding Salbutamol case.
That’s according to Rocco Taminelli, a Swiss sports lawyer who represented Diego Ulissi in 2014.
“What he is trying to do is very risky,” Taminelli told VeloNews. “They will try to argue that he did not take more than was allowed. Now he has to prove it, and that is the hard part. If you fail to prove it, you could get two years.”
The Hitch said:Robert5091 said:2016
https://www.independent.ie/sport/ot...to-tour-de-france-stage-victory-34870952.htmlChris Froome fined €184 for punching idiotic fan on way to Tour de France stage victory
Who's started it? :lol:
I remember our old friend sniper posted a video from the 09 tour. There is a fan on the road. Contador, Lance. Andy and Frank ride past him. The last rider of the 5 Bradley wiggins, for some totally unexplained reason reaches out and pushes the fan into a ridge.