Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[meat puppet]

As an aside, as i understand it, captive snakes are less prone to eat if the prey is not live. So this is not necessarily very unusual.

 

[rick james]

What is he meant to feed his pet snakes? Porridge and yoghurt?

 

[Red Rick]

Re:

As an aside, as i understand it, captive snakes are less prone to eat if the prey is not live. So this is not necessarily very unusual.

He probably didn't give a *** anyway, as the solution is pretty simple. Not keep pet snakes. In any case I think this is pretty irrelevant apart from the character study and what not

 

[spalco]

You can't blame people taking justice into their own hands when the courts failed.

Uh, yes, you certainly can. I would at least.

eta: And the courts haven't failed here (yet). I don't think he's getting off, and I hope he won't ride the Tour if the case hasn't concluded before july.

 

[Alpe73]

Re: Re:

Aaaahh! Now I get the 'slithering reptile' http://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/42363825 insult ...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/chris-froome-rider-on-the-storm-10415129.html

As a boy, Chris Froome had two unusual pets: a pair of pythons. They needed feeding, and their meals had to be alive. Mice at first, then rats. But as they grew they needed something more filling. So he raided the rabbit hutches in the kindergarten across the road.

“Young children would arrive at the class next day and their little baby bunny rabbits would be gone,” he wrote in last year’s autobiography, The Climb. The rabbits would squeal as the snakes tucked in, he recalled. “I felt like intervening and stopping it. But the pythons had to be fed and it was my responsibility.” From the outset Chris Froome did what had to be done.

It does somewhat annoy me that people laugh and mock this story even celebrate Froome. It was awful behaviour even by child standards and the pride with which an adult Froome recounts killing animals for fun at such a young age is disturbing.

What was worse about the pythons in my opinion is Froome also used to feed them live prey - mice and such.

I'm with animal rights activists that this is a practise that should be forbidden.

He boasts in his book that he remembers the shrieks of the dying animals. Killing animals to eat them is one thing but to torture animals as a teenager and not feeling anything, then even boasting about it years later suggest he might be as depraved as some of his fans.

I am with you on that one, brutha. The real story behind the jog up the Ventoux? OK. Keep it under your hat, FFS! The Bedoin arm of ARM ... had a giant MFin white mouse (with a bloke inside) behind Tommy S’a monument. Their plan was to charge onto the road, squealing hideously, knocking Chris off the bike, over the edge and down into the moonrockscape.

Moped driver saw this big MFin mouse charging ... hit the brakes ... and the rest is history. I mean ... if you watch the telecast again, you’ll see all the commotion (no F-in wonder), but if you listen closely you’ll hear a squeaky voice shouting.... “Abort! Abort!”

Race referees knew about it ... that’s why they were so generous in regards to Dawg’s lost time. I mean even if you don’t like FroomeDawg, even the Clinic wouldn’t condone that batshit crazy MF-in giant squeaky mouse shyte, would ya now?

 

[S2Sturges]

You can't blame people taking justice into their own hands when the courts failed.

Uh, yes, you certainly can. I would at least.

eta: And the courts haven't failed here (yet). I don't think he's getting off, and I hope he won't ride the Tour if the case hasn't concluded before july.

Listened with great interest to Paul Kimmage’s interview, he certainly isn’t one to mince his words or not make his feelings known, and he’s right to do so, this whole Froome affair stinks. I do, however, wonder somethings maybe more enlightened forum members could clarify.

Can the ASO just not invite him to their races, Le Tour and others? it’s their race, if they feel someone is a detriment to the race, can the ASO tell the teams that..?
If he has his legal team drag out possibly indefinitely their defense and he’s free to race, what’s to stop the ASO from saying,
ah, not this year, Chris….

What might be the legal obligations of race organisers during say, the Giro, if the tifosi get out of hand, knock him off his bike and injury him so he can’t continue, with finish that race or continue for future races… ?
If it’s proven that Froome was specifically the target of wrath, can Sky sue the race organisers if he has to stop racing either, at that race or any others….

I guess the last big question was why didn’t the UCI suspend him right after the AAF, other than Cookson sitting on the findings and wishing would all blow away/ I admit my obvious lack of knowledge in the workings of all these organisations, but should not the new president of the UCI, reacted to that news immediately..?

Again, apologies for asking possibly daft questions..

 

[Rollthedice]

You can't blame people taking justice into their own hands when the courts failed.

Uh, yes, you certainly can. I would at least.

eta: And the courts haven't failed here (yet). I don't think he's getting off, and I hope he won't ride the Tour if the case hasn't concluded before july.

Listened with great interest to Paul Kimmage’s interview, he certainly isn’t one to mince his words or not make his feelings known, and he’s right to do so, this whole Froome affair stinks. I do, however, wonder somethings maybe more enlightened forum members could clarify.

Can the ASO just not invite him to their races, Le Tour and others? it’s their race, if they feel someone is a detriment to the race, can the ASO tell the teams that..?
If he has his legal team drag out possibly indefinitely their defense and he’s free to race, what’s to stop the ASO from saying,
ah, not this year, Chris….

What might be the legal obligations of race organisers during say, the Giro, if the tifosi get out of hand, knock him off his bike and injury him so he can’t continue, with finish that race or continue for future races… ?
If it’s proven that Froome was specifically the target of wrath, can Sky sue the race organisers if he has to stop racing either, at that race or any others….

I guess the last big question was why didn’t the UCI suspend him right after the AAF, other than Cookson sitting on the findings and wishing would all blow away/ I admit my obvious lack of knowledge in the workings of all these organisations, but should not the new president of the UCI, reacted to that news immediately..?

Again, apologies for asking possibly daft questions..

ASO can forbid him to race. Everybody can sue everybody, Giro organizers will do everything to protect the riders but ***t happens. UCI does not suspend for AAF for this kind of substance, they don't have to make it public, it leaked to the press. Sky can suspend the rider until it is cleared, that is what they should've done but they are a team where sistematic doping takes place so they have to side with their rider. Froome can suspend himself but he must play the innocent card until the end. And the end, for the Froome charade is not so far.

 

[Merckx index]

Maybe it’s time to break out the limericks again?

A GT champion with asthma
Had nothing wrong with his plasma
But the levels in his piss
The threshold quite missed
Resulting in a serious miasma

What a boon is the inhaler
The difference twixt win and failure
When the going gets tough
You huff and you puff
And tell ‘em its legit at the trailer

The Vuelta has seen crowd pleasers
And one year it was won by a geezer
Then there was a thief
Who started a beef
While this year’s champ was a wheezer

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Maybe it’s time to break out the limericks again?

A GT champion with asthma
Had nothing wrong with his plasma
But the levels in his piss
The threshold quite missed
Resulting in a serious miasma

What a boon is the inhaler
The difference twixt win and failure
When the going gets tough
You huff and you puff
And tell ‘em its legit at the trailer

The Vuelta has seen crowd pleasers
And one year it was won by a geezer
Then there was a thief
Who started a beef
While this year’s champ was a wheezer

Very nice, Mi! :lol:

On a different note - don't post much here but I've definitely been following these Froome events, last night I watched the documentary about Pantani again. While I'm sure some of it is conspiracy theories it's interesting whether they've decided to finally pop Froome like they did Pantani way back when, Froome was just getting too dominant (making cycling dull and predictable), which may be bad for business.

It's a very good documentary, don't think times have changed too much. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2966760/

 

[70kmph]

There was a young man named Chris
Who desperately needed a piss
He went to controls
And ignored all the trolls
Who said what the hell is this

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Like Tricycle, I never post in the Clinic anymore either, but those limericks are hilarious!

As an aside, a shout out to all in the Clinic. I honestly think it's the people here that dig deep, the true detectives, that contribute to keeping our sport honest, at least as much as possible, far beyond just these walls in CN. Keep up the good work.

To cut to the quick, this case of Froome's is very simple to me. Salbutamol is limited on the banned list, just as clenbuterol, testosterone, epo and others are. You break the threshold, no matter how that happens, no matter how much an an advantage you gained, you have exceeded the limits and broken the rules. The onus is on every cyclist, and ever team the same here, justice should be blind in this regard. If those rules do not seem fair, then they should be changed, and apply to all cases moving forward. Thus, pending full review, Froome (and Sky) broke that limit, broke the rules, and should be stripped of his win and face a ban accordingly, just like any other cyclist.

 

[brownbobby]

Woah what happened....I checked out for a couple of days travelling for Xmas, come back, it's all about the ethics of kids in Africa keeping pet snakes

Did the doping debate run out of steam?

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

Re: Re:

...[T]he solution is pretty simple. Not keep pet snakes....

So snakes in the wild don't kill to eat? I hadn't realised.

 

[brownbobby]

https://m.soundcloud.com/thestandwitheamondunphy/ep-112-paul-kimmage-on-chris-froome

Good stuff from Kimmage, as always. Doesnt really tell us anything we hadn't figured for ourselves about Sky/Froome. But an entertaining listen.

I especially liked the last 5 minutes. I never knew that the biggest paid and most famous club manager in the world, currently residing at one of, if not the richest football club in the world, had such a doping rap sheet, and was continuing to enhance that rap sheet with his current employers.

I know cycling is his thing, but would love to see Kimmage shine a bright light on this. Then again nobody cares, so aint gonna happen.

Sorry, back to cycling....

 

[Mayo from Mayo]

https://m.soundcloud.com/thestandwitheamondunphy/ep-112-paul-kimmage-on-chris-froome

Good stuff from Kimmage, as always. Doesnt really tell us anything we hadn't figured for ourselves about Sky/Froome. But an entertaining listen.

I especially liked the last 5 minutes. I never knew that the biggest paid and most famous club manager in the world, currently residing at one of, if not the richest football club in the world, had such a doping rap sheet, and was continuing to enhance that rap sheet with his current employers.

I know cycling is his thing, but would love to see Kimmage shine a bright light on this. Then again nobody cares, so aint gonna happen.



Sorry, back to cycling....

He just has, not his fault if nobody picks up on it. And sure as hell football doping ain't gonna be the escape route for Sky.

 

[brownbobby]

https://m.soundcloud.com/thestandwitheamondunphy/ep-112-paul-kimmage-on-chris-froome

Good stuff from Kimmage, as always. Doesnt really tell us anything we hadn't figured for ourselves about Sky/Froome. But an entertaining listen.

I especially liked the last 5 minutes. I never knew that the biggest paid and most famous club manager in the world, currently residing at one of, if not the richest football club in the world, had such a doping rap sheet, and was continuing to enhance that rap sheet with his current employers.

I know cycling is his thing, but would love to see Kimmage shine a bright light on this. Then again nobody cares, so aint gonna happen.



Sorry, back to cycling....

He just has, not his fault if nobody picks up on it. And sure as hell football doping ain't gonna be the escape route for Sky.

***, you got me again. Can't possibly be interested in a topic for its own sake. It's all about Froome.

I thought I'd found a way, thought I could bring football down and my hero could just ride off into the sunset.

Damn you pesky kids. Foiled again

 

[Mayo from Mayo]

https://m.soundcloud.com/thestandwitheamondunphy/ep-112-paul-kimmage-on-chris-froome

Good stuff from Kimmage, as always. Doesnt really tell us anything we hadn't figured for ourselves about Sky/Froome. But an entertaining listen.

I especially liked the last 5 minutes. I never knew that the biggest paid and most famous club manager in the world, currently residing at one of, if not the richest football club in the world, had such a doping rap sheet, and was continuing to enhance that rap sheet with his current employers.

I know cycling is his thing, but would love to see Kimmage shine a bright light on this. Then again nobody cares, so aint gonna happen.



Sorry, back to cycling....

He just has, not his fault if nobody picks up on it. And sure as hell football doping ain't gonna be the escape route for Sky.

***, you got me again. Can't possibly be interested in a topic for its own sake. It's all about Froome.

I thought I'd found a way, thought I could bring football down and my hero could just ride off into the sunset.

Damn you pesky kids. Foiled again

It's not all about you but this thread is all about Froome. If you want to take about doping in football then start a thread. You may wish to start by looking at Fuentes clientele.

 

[Wiggo's Package]

Re: Re:

There was a young boy called Froome
Who kept snakes as pets in his room
Fed them other kids' rabbits
Such amoral habits
Untrustworthy right from the womb

There was a team boss called Dave
Who all considered a knave
His reputation in tatters
In the end all that matters
Is the knighthood now that he must save

Now we all know that Brits don't dope
Or so we're told by the fanboys who hope
To suspend disbelief
And defer the grief
The penny drops oh no they can't cope

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Re: Re:

There was a young boy called Froome
Who kept snakes as pets in his room
Fed them other kids' rabbits
Such amoral habits
Untrustworthy right from the womb

There was a team boss called Dave
Who all considered a knave
His reputation in tatters
In the end all that matters
Is the knighthood now that he must save

Now we all know that Brits don't dope
Or so we're told by the fanboys who hope
To suspend disbelief
And defer the grief
The penny drops oh no they can't cope

Well done, WP. Well done!

 

[Merckx index]

Michelle said to her hubby Chris
Give me your Christmas list
He said with a sigh
There’s nothing to buy
Cause all I want is clean piss

So Ms. Cound rang up CAS
Tell me and please make it fast
How much for a judge
Who will allow us to fudge
And make sure that Chris gets a pass

Turns out they have monthly rates
That decide your ultimate fate
Twelve months is cheap
While three is quite steep
And even more if you want to skate

New riders ask about skills
And the secret to climbing the hills
You don’t need kung fu
Just stuff for lung goo
To cover up the salbutamol pills

There’s a new name for a famous climb
Thanks to a certain rider’s crime
It used to be Ventoux
That everyone knew
But now its Ventolin for all time

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Kate Bush playlist for CF:

Wuthering Heights
Them Heavy People
Running up that Hill
King Of The Mountain

[C/H]ounds of Love
This Woman's Work
Experiment IV
Breathing
Wow
December Will be Magic!

Don't Give Up.

 

[Wiggo's Package]

Re:

There was a young man from Kenya
Who went on a salbutamol bender
He wrote to Bri
Cover up can we try
But Bri's gone letter returned to sender

 

[pastronef]

among the poems and the deserved flack, Merry Christmas to you all!

 

[glassmoon]

Re:

Kate Bush playlist for CF:

Wuthering Heights
Them Heavy People
Running up that Hill
King Of The Mountain

[C/H]ounds of Love
This Woman's Work
Experiment IV
Breathing
Wow
December Will be Magic!

Don't Give Up.

 

[brownbobby]

Fairytale of a boy called Chris....

He dreamt of the roads in France
Great mountains he wanted to tame
But nobody gave him a chance
In the sport with a history of shame

Then 2011 there's magic in Spain
Our boy we see him transform
His team try so hard to explain
There's nothing here out of the norm

But the boy had no previous
We've been here before
His methods are dubious
Of this we are sure

Time goes on and it's tour number four
We can't bear to utter his name
So we cleverly call him Froomestrong
To show that we all know his game

The mans just a bandit
The boy got rich
We just cannot stand it
And his wife's a witch

Then a test brings great joy
The clinic goes crazy
The end of our boy?
But details so hazy

There may be good reason
Our boys still alive
May be back this next season
To claim tour number five.

So was it in vain
The hatred and sneering
The records remain
The fanboys still cheering