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Saint Unix said:
thehog said:
The George Bennett tweet from the team is priceless...

“Bull5hit?!! He did a Landis?!”

https://twitter.com/lottojumbo_road/status/1000105610489286662?s=21
The pros know Froome is cheating (obviously) and are reaching the point where they don't give enough of a **** to hide it from the general public.

This could get interesting.
Well, they probably only know that because they are also all cheating, and are aware that only someone else who is cheating could finish ahead of them. Saying that this guy is cheating, just doing it better than me, is a pretty difficult line to sell to the general public though.
 
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Forever The Best said:
This was the most ridiculous performance I've ever seen, by far. (I started watching in 2011)
If it's any consolation I've been watching since 1984 and it's comfortably in my top ten. I hardly ever post here, think the last time was over a year ago but I just couldn't let today pass without comment.

Sadly one of the things that I'd expect is enabling Froome at the moment is the UCI. They seem to be right back in the Armstrong conundrum again, where they're terrified of jerking the chain of one of the big names of the moment because they know the damage that yet another major scandal would do to the sport, yet by not doing so they're arguably doing at least as much damage themselves.

I'm genuinely amazed that Froome and Sky are being allowed to let the adverse analytical finding saga drag on this long. I mean it's a relatively simple matter, the finding itself hasn't been disputed and it happened in early September - it's now eight months on, I mean what exactly are they pretending is taking so long to analyze? What new facts are supposedly still going to emerge over and above what is known today, or come to that six months ago? Are they hoping that everybody will just forget about it, or that maybe they'll become distracted by the heat death of the universe?

Are Team Sly just going to be allowed to continue their 'fact finding' until he retires? It's an absolute joke and the only reason the UCI haven't lost all credibility because of it is that frankly, they'd already lost all credibility long before this. There is no hope for the sport as long as the governing body is so weak. The fish rots from the head.
 
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OldCranky said:
I'm genuinely amazed that Froome and Sky are being allowed to let the adverse analytical finding saga drag on this long. I mean it's a relatively simple matter, the finding itself hasn't been disputed and it happened in early September - it's now eight months on, I mean what exactly are they pretending is taking so long to analyze? What new facts are supposedly still going to emerge over and above what is known today, or come to that six months ago? Are they hoping that everybody will just forget about it, or that maybe they'll become distracted by the heat death of the universe?
You do realise other AAF salbutamol cases took a similar length of time to be resolved ?
 
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bigcog said:
OldCranky said:
I'm genuinely amazed that Froome and Sky are being allowed to let the adverse analytical finding saga drag on this long. I mean it's a relatively simple matter, the finding itself hasn't been disputed and it happened in early September - it's now eight months on, I mean what exactly are they pretending is taking so long to analyze? What new facts are supposedly still going to emerge over and above what is known today, or come to that six months ago? Are they hoping that everybody will just forget about it, or that maybe they'll become distracted by the heat death of the universe?
You do realise other AAF salbutamol cases took a similar length of time to be resolved ?
Yep. Don't find that any less amazing. I'm not suggesting that you can wrap these things up in three days but as I said, there is simply no plausible reason why it should take that amount of time and today is a prime example of why it's a problem. As I said the finding itself isn't in dispute as far as I'm aware so how exactly does it take eight months to genuinely establish how it happened?

armchairclimber said:
Personally I admire the chutzpah. "You all think I'm doping right/ With my Salbutamol? Well stick this in your pipe and smoke it. Rather be hanged for a sheep than a lamb". Even if he was on thermonuclearepohghpeptidebollockjuice, to say "Right, catch me if you can" from 88km is pretty ballsy.
And long term clinic visitors will know that I hate SKY and have had little time for Froome.
I have to admit I did find myself with a very small nugget of grudging respect for the complete and utter lack of craps he gives. He and his team clearly either think/know they're bulletproof or simply don't care.
 
I have to offer a contrarian opinion: that was genius. I almost feel slightly euphoric.

These kinds of stages are central to what pro-cycling is all about; we all remember them for decades and to some degree, they are expressive of the quintessence of the sport. i.e. find any way to reap the glory/cash.

I'll look for justice in political philosophy, nobility in humble people and all out competition for scarce resources (without rules) in cycling.
 
It's worthy of note that no one has been suspended today for doping talk on the stage thread or Froome discussion on PRR. Was everyone struck dumb, or has there been a collective decision by mods to look away?
 
The Hegelian:

Oh, I don't think it's one or the other. It was an awesome stage, I had lots of fun watching it and it'll be remembered for decades. It was also completely unbelievable (above the standards of pro cycling).
 
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A scary thought comes to mind: has he been this good for the entire Giro?
Just holding back, feigning (apart from the crash) waiting to be truly unleashed?
 
ahsoe said:
A scary thought comes to mind: has he been this good for the entire Giro?
Just holding back, feigning (apart from the crash) waiting to be truly unleashed?
One also has to ask: in other GT's where he has had a comfortable lead - could he have been winning by 15 minutes if he wanted to?
 
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

That happened. Oh my.

I thought Froome was cooling his jets a little, then this occurs.

I used to, years ago, believe what I saw and figure if it wasn't legit, I'd find out later. Then after all the doping scandals over the years, I quickly came to feel that if it looked too good to be true, too transformational, then it was BS and hey, perhaps in future years if nothing changed, I'd change my mind.

So glad I and no one I care about got into pro sports. What a f*cking ridiculous display. Usually the hubris comes out after about 4-5 years at the top!
 
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Usually the hubris comes out after about 4-5 years at the top!
This above is what I felt after seeing this result - it reminds me more of Lance than Landis i.e. to ride like this, while an investigation is pending, is reckless
 
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The Hegelian said:
ahsoe said:
A scary thought comes to mind: has he been this good for the entire Giro?
Just holding back, feigning (apart from the crash) waiting to be truly unleashed?
IMHO. Yes.

One also has to ask: in other GT's where he has had a comfortable lead - could he have been winning by 15 minutes if he wanted to?
Froome is in a league of his own. He can do pretty much whatever he wants, whenever he wants. He's definitely on some next-gen stuff. Instead of scanning Froome's bike, scan his body.
 
https://cyclingtips.com/2018/05/only-love-can-break-your-heart-a-lamentation-on-chris-froome/

In moments like this, it is sad to have to say this out loud: The sport of cycling belongs to the fans. These are good people whose patience and passion has been tested for decades now. These are the good people who ultimately enable the business of pro cycling to exist and flourish. These who are the good people who camp out on remote mountain roads to celebrate a beautiful sport and be within an arm’s reach of their heroes for a few fleeting seconds.

And Chris Froome is shitting all over these people.
 
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claude cat said:
https://cyclingtips.com/2018/05/only-love-can-break-your-heart-a-lamentation-on-chris-froome/

In moments like this, it is sad to have to say this out loud: The sport of cycling belongs to the fans. These are good people whose patience and passion has been tested for decades now. These are the good people who ultimately enable the business of pro cycling to exist and flourish. These who are the good people who camp out on remote mountain roads to celebrate a beautiful sport and be within an arm’s reach of their heroes for a few fleeting seconds.

And Chris Froome is shitting all over these people.

Well done article. I think he said what so many fans want to say. I think it's one of those we know they're doping, but what we want is to see what is plausible, what we can believe. Not what Froome did today which is not believable or plausible. I truly think this is a case of we've seen this too many times and know we can't believe something that is too good to be true.
 
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Did Sky get a memo last night saying that TDF is out of the question for Froome?

So it's win at all costs for the Giro?

It's hard to believe that he has this capacity all of a sudden, and didn't have anything like it until now (in this race).
Seems like a decision was made to let Froome off the leash
 

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