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macbindle said:
rick james said:
TourOfSardinia said:
Never wanting to be labelled a theorist of conspiracy (in vain?) but:

could these few month just be a time-out for breaking the bio-passport?

Similar to back-when in tennis ace Nadal had his time-out for several months - "being injured".

The money wants to keep them running
but has to admonish them somehow in the dark.
So are professional doctors lying to us and are in on this conspiracy

Well they were when it came to facilitating doping, transfusions and test evasion...
Personally I can't see trauma surgeons who work for French health service being involved with a conspiracy with Ineos and Froome, but whatever floats your boat :lol:
 
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veganrob said:
LaFlorecita said:
bigcog said:
LaFlorecita said:
Miracle man is on his bike again... I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I'm starting to believe the rumors that he wasn't as badly injured as the team said he was!

Also good luck trying to catch him retroactively (wrt the discussion about 2011 Vuelta above) they can't test for motors in retrospect :rolleyes:
He is using a trainer with one leg as of yesterday, hardly back on a bike as you make out :rolleyes:
He fractured his hip and femur, ribs, sternum, elbow, some neck vertrebrae (but never wore a brace), lost 2 L of blood and was supposed to be in the hospital for 6 weeks - yet he is on a trainer again (stationary bike :rolleyes: ) after 1 month

:confused:
And his doctors have already said he could come back better than ever.
Well

The jokes are getting better than ever
 
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spalco said:
An amusing detail, which also shows how stupid awarding retroactive titles is, is: without cobo, does froome even win this race?

I think he would have stayed with wiggins on the angliru and then later on pena cabarga as well and never gotten a chance to overtake him.
That's what I've been saying. Disqualifying a rider during the race is completely different then post DQ. They completely change the race with their presence (especially if one rider is dominating) and who knows if second place would have won if the original rider wasn't present and I would think most of them wouldn't have.
 
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macbindle said:
rick james said:
TourOfSardinia said:
Never wanting to be labelled a theorist of conspiracy (in vain?) but:

could these few month just be a time-out for breaking the bio-passport?

Similar to back-when in tennis ace Nadal had his time-out for several months - "being injured".

The money wants to keep them running
but has to admonish them somehow in the dark.
So are professional doctors lying to us and are in on this conspiracy

Well they were when it came to facilitating doping, transfusions and test evasion...
Still creeping on me, unhealthy
 
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rick james said:
macbindle said:
rick james said:
TourOfSardinia said:
Never wanting to be labelled a theorist of conspiracy (in vain?) but:

could these few month just be a time-out for breaking the bio-passport?

Similar to back-when in tennis ace Nadal had his time-out for several months - "being injured".

The money wants to keep them running
but has to admonish them somehow in the dark.
So are professional doctors lying to us and are in on this conspiracy

Well they were when it came to facilitating doping, transfusions and test evasion...
Still creeping on me, unhealthy
You make posts. People respond.
 
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bigcog said:
macbindle said:
rick james said:
TourOfSardinia said:
Never wanting to be labelled a theorist of conspiracy (in vain?) but:

could these few month just be a time-out for breaking the bio-passport?

Similar to back-when in tennis ace Nadal had his time-out for several months - "being injured".

The money wants to keep them running
but has to admonish them somehow in the dark.
So are professional doctors lying to us and are in on this conspiracy

Well they were when it came to facilitating doping, transfusions and test evasion...
Personally I can't see trauma surgeons who work for French health service being involved with a conspiracy with Ineos and Froome, but whatever floats your boat :lol:
I didnt say they were.

I'm pointing out that doctors have been involved in conspiracies in cycling.
 
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staubsauger said:
LaFlorecita said:
bigcog said:
LaFlorecita said:
Miracle man is on his bike again... I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I'm starting to believe the rumors that he wasn't as badly injured as the team said he was!

Also good luck trying to catch him retroactively (wrt the discussion about 2011 Vuelta above) they can't test for motors in retrospect :rolleyes:
He is using a trainer with one leg as of yesterday, hardly back on a bike as you make out :rolleyes:
He fractured his hip and femur, ribs, sternum, elbow, some neck vertrebrae (but never wore a brace), lost 2 L of blood and was supposed to be in the hospital for 6 weeks - yet he is on a trainer again (stationary bike :rolleyes: ) after 1 month

:confused:
Ineos made it sound as if Froome was as badly injured as Pantani in 1995, who spent most of 1996 in rehabilitation and swimming pools learning how to walk again!

Yes, NOW I think the conspiracy theorists actually might have a point. Didn't do so beforehand.

Also Froome's already happily celebrating his 2011 Vuelta a Espana victory on social media. Completely classless act this jerk!
This does appear that he was not as injured or broken up as advertised. At this point Froome is such a fraud it is really hard to accept any information as the truth.
 
Far be it from me to support Froome, but: I was hit by a truck, had my pelvis rebuilt with titanium, broke 11ribs, punctured my lungs, broke vertebrae and severely fractured a collarbone. With much argument, I could manage a trainer aftwr 4-5 weeks Were I a multi-million dollar athlete, there would have been no argument. I won’t say with certainty, but I suspect many people have no idea what they’re talking about.
 
If he returns at the same level or a similar level as before after femur and hip fracture i will start screaming conspiracy. Vino, Beloki, Phinney where nowhere near their old form after such injuries.

Also him being on a trainer so fast is nothing unusual, Vino was also back on the trainer before he could walk.
 
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aphronesis said:
Far be it from me to support Froome, but: I was hit by a truck, had my pelvis rebuilt with titanium, broke 11ribs, punctured my lungs, broke vertebrae and severely fractured a collarbone. With much argument, I could manage a trainer aftwr 4-5 weeks Were I a multi-million dollar athlete, there would have been no argument. I won’t say with certainty, but I suspect many people have no idea what they’re talking about.
Holy smoke that's crazy

I probably couldn't get out of bed for 3 months if I broke a rib.
 
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Yeh seems to me Ineos have to take a step back from the cookie jar this time and what happens is that they are nowhere. Cant have a multiple GT-winner back to his pre anatomic Jock-days so needs to slip out somewhere. Could always point on this incident when back to his zig-zagging days.
 
seems like froome is not going to let his clinics well-wishers get bored. he will try to come back to his best. so gentlemen, let's take our time and gain power as there are a lot of heated debates ahead :)

on a serious note, this tour immensly lacks froome's charisma. those elbows going back and forth, stupid socks, unique bike-handling skills as well as climbing in yo-yo mode with a furious attack coming later. :cool: we got used to this way too much imo.
 
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rick james said:
More information on his crash coming tomorrow...pen and pads at the ready to pick holes in it
If the team didn’t have such a history of unmitigated BS, and if the photo is in any way backed up the initial claims about his injuries, no one would be saying jack about it. They have brought the doubt upon themselves.

I’ve been resistant to the conspiracy theories floating around but to imply there’s no reason for questions strikes me as maybe a bit naive.
 

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