Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[ChewbaccaD]

That's like saying anyone who hangs on to a motorbike to make the time limit is a potential doper. It's desperation, plain and simple.

I'm only gonna stick the tip in baby, I swear. You can trust me...

 

[Jahudor]

Now, you don't need a PhD in statistics or exercise physiology or any particularly sophisticated models to convert ITT times or VAM times into power data and VO2max data to see that there's absolutely no manifestation whatsoever of any extraordinary 'at the physiologocal limit' VO2max value for Froome from anything before the 2011 Vuelta. Now, why would that be the case, I wonder? The official explanation for that given so far is bilharzia. Or did I miss something?

Yes thats the explanation they come up with. The Bilharzia story however is getting more and more suspicious as is being discussed in the Badzilla topic. It seems Froome still needs to be treated for it two times a year in Africa - strange!

 

[hrotha]

Froome rode like an idiot and apparently miscalculated. Porte as strong as ever. Some other guys are obviously keeping up. Others, predominantly those from the nether regions, apparently aren't.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Yes thats the explanation they come up with. The Bilharzia story however is getting more and more suspicious as is being discussed in the Badzilla topic. It seems Froome still needs to be treated for it two times a year in Africa - strange!

Maybe Froome was taking a Badzilla treatment with his illegal feed...

 

[whittashau]

Was that a genuine crack? He didn't look like he was faking it, to me.

It was clearly a hunger-knock. Nothing more, and nothing less. People would be stupid to say he was faking it, and people would be stupid to say that it proves he's clean. Being that he obviously has almost no body-fat that he takes a big hit when he hasn't eaten a lot

 

[D-Queued]

Great, so they only blatantly cheated once...that makes it all better...

Folks, you are looking at the wrong cheating.

Please note how Froome is handed a drink right after the finish line, as the doping control officers arrive to accompany him.

This is a violation of doping control.

Between the late feed and the feed after the finish, it is quite possible that the urine can be sufficiently diluted to mask trace PEDs.

Dave.

 

[No_Balls]

You should stop, you used to defend Contador.

I defended for his qualities on a bike in threads were such discussion arent allowed. Class is forever. Never defended him here though.

The hypocrites, they are everywhere these days.

Oh, tell me, tell me. Are you a prominent member of the "never-failed-a-test" brigade? Seeing as you just cant stop talking about Riis and Contador in a thread called: "Froome Talk Only"?

 

[Alphabet]

Why on earth did he attack? That too, from so far out?

 

[The Hitch]

Twice Sky have cheated regarding feeding on a climb, and anyone believes they wouldn't dope? Sky will do whatever they need to win. Only a fool believes their protests about doping.

EDIT: Sorry, once. Evidently they relaxed the feed rules on Ventoux...

Wiggins had no problem lying on behalf of Armstrong doping, yet presumably he fervently opposes doing it himself

 

[Bakhjulet]

Froome rode like an idiot and apparently miscalculated. Porte as strong as ever. Some other guys are obviously keeping up. Others, predominantly those from the nether regions, apparently aren't.

Those early attacks by Froome on d'Huez... I'm mean WTF?! He leads with over 4 minutes, he must have know that Quintana and Purito would attack to gain time on Kreuziger and Contador. Why not just try to follow their attacks instead of attacking himself? Froome need to start using his brain.

 

[Stradebianche]

ITV seem to think he has been deducted 20 seconds for an illegal feed..

 

[IndianCyclist]

no more full ***. In the next 2 stages he should be in suffering defensive mode.

 

[red_flanders]

Those early attacks by Froome on d'Huez... I'm mean WTF?! He leads with over 4 minutes, he must have know that Quintana and Purito would attack to gain time on Kreuziger and Contador. Why not just try to follow their attacks instead of attacking himself? Froome need to start using his brain.

Domination breeds arrogance.

 

[the sceptic]

no more full ***. In the next 2 stages he should be in suffering defensive mode.

The only hope is that Contador does a Landis tomorrow
Everyone else will be in defense mode

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

OK. Where are the condemnations of Froome's Pantani-style 38 minute ascent of the Alpe?

Such an ascent was widely predicted, so I assume it happened, so the non-condemnations are presumably because Froome's erstwhile knockers have "gone native" and are pretending he ascended in an entirely believeable 41 minutes.

 

[Ferminal]

OK. Where are the condemnations of Froome's Pantani-style 38 minute ascent of the Alpe?

Such an ascent was widely predicted, so I assume it happened, so the non-condemnations are presumably because Froome's erstwhile knockers have "gone native" and are pretending he ascended in an entirely believeable 41 minutes.

What are you saying?

 

[hrotha]

People using hyperbole weren't literally right, therefore Froome is clean.

 

[whittashau]

OK. Where are the condemnations of Froome's Pantani-style 38 minute ascent of the Alpe?

Such an ascent was widely predicted, so I assume it happened, so the non-condemnations are presumably because Froome's erstwhile knockers have "gone native" and are pretending he ascended in an entirely believeable 41 minutes.

Are you kidding me? You did just watch the stage, right? He could be doped up on every drug known to man, riding his hardest, and yet that stage would be exactly the same because clearly his issue was food related. We'll never know how fast he could, or would have attempted today.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Folks, you are looking at the wrong cheating.

Please note how Froome is handed a drink right after the finish line, as the doping control officers arrive to accompany him.

This is a violation of doping control.

Between the late feed and the feed after the finish, it is quite possible that the urine can be sufficiently diluted to mask trace PEDs.

Dave.

Doping controls give you sports drink and water when you can't pee. What do you want a dehydrated athlete to do, wait around 4 hours until they **** brown?

EDIT to clarify the *, number 1

 

[thehog]

OK. Where are the condemnations of Froome's Pantani-style 38 minute ascent of the Alpe?

Such an ascent was widely predicted, so I assume it happened, so the non-condemnations are presumably because Froome's erstwhile knockers have "gone native" and are pretending he ascended in an entirely believeable 41 minutes.

If he truly bonked. And suffered like suggested and rode 41 minutes and 39 minutes round 1 then ummmmmm....


If he was tanking it, which I suspect was the case then WTF?

The was the oddest stage up the alpe I've ever seen.

Not adding up.

And Porte?

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

What are you saying?

I'm saying that Froome climbed the Alpe in 41 minutes and the people who were predicting a 38 minute ascent or something else from the Lance/EPO era were talking b*llocks.

 

[Bakhjulet]

OK. Where are the condemnations of Froome's Pantani-style 38 minute ascent of the Alpe?

Such an ascent was widely predicted, so I assume it happened, so the non-condemnations are presumably because Froome's erstwhile knockers have "gone native" and are pretending he ascended in an entirely believeable 41 minutes.

I'm not much for Froome bashing, but lets be honest: he rode the climb in 41 minutes and had a bad food crisis in the middle of the climb.

 

[Juan Speeder]

What are you saying?

He's saying that there're 20 pages predicting a record ascent of Ad'H by Froome, and it didn't happen.

It was pretty clear to me.

 

[the sceptic]

The "normal" Froome would have beaten quintana by what, 1 minute or so?

 

[TheEnoculator]

Today's Alpe d'Huez stage was an interesting point that obviously Froome has no problem cheating to prevent himself from losing. This already shows this man has shaky integrity. And we are supposed to believe that he's clean?