Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[LaFlorecita]

he's slimmer than Fat Boy Alberto anyway, that's all that counts

why? I don't get it. What has Contador got to do with this?

 

[DirtyWorks]

A riders weight is something that has been on my mind from time to time, would it have any 'scientific' value-merit to just weigh the top 10 finishers after every stage?

Weight the damn bike and then weight the damn racer, I mean, how hard could that be?

Because with a rider's weight and some TT/HC times, it's easy to estimate power potential of your competitors. It simplifies the various factors weighed for a grand tour podium. It would be a huge red flag for doping when power/weight ratios are reaching near 6.0/kilo in the third week of a grand tour.

 

[the sceptic]

Because with a rider's weight and some TT/HC times, it's easy to estimate power potential of your competitors. It simplifies the various factors weighed for a grand tour podium. It would be a huge red flag for doping when power/weight ratios are reaching near 6.0/kilo in the third week of a grand tour.

What are they going to do about that information though? Just because you know Froome can climb at 6.5w/kg doesnt mean youre going to be able to beat him.

I think the weighing is a good idea. Cookson should make that mandatory, for the sake of transparency. And its very easy to implement.

Or they could even make it optional. If certain riders would avoid it consitently that would raise some flags too.

 

[Arrowfarm]

What are they going to do about that information though? Just because you know Froome can climb at 6.5w/kg doesnt mean youre going to be able to beat him.

I think the weighing is a good idea. Cookson should make that mandatory, for the sake of transparency. And its very easy to implement.

Or they could even make it optional. If certain riders would avoid it consitently that would raise some flags too.

No optionals.
Weighing in at every race or stage should be part of the signing in and as mandatory as the doping tests.

The SRMs should be turned over to officials immidiately after crossing the finish Line and all files should be made public without an hour. Then they get it back the next morning. Ready for a new stage/race/whatever.
No optionals... Not in the anti doping effort. IMO

 

[EnacheV]

No optionals.
Weighing in at every race or stage should be part of the signing in and as mandatory as the doping tests.

The SRMs should be turned over to officials immidiately after crossing the finish Line and all files should be made public without an hour. Then they get it back the next morning. Ready for a new stage/race/whatever.
No optionals... Not in the anti doping effort. IMO

this would make sense if numbers like watts/kg would mean something relevant for doping

as they are not what's the point?

 

[42x16ss]

this would make sense if numbers like watts/kg would mean something relevant for doping

as they are not what's the point?

It would help recognise any massive, bizarre improvements seemingly out of left field and give the testers and bio passport panel a better idea of who to keep an eye on. It's not the be all and end all but it can be used as yet another peice in the anti doping puzzle.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

this would make sense if numbers like watts/kg would mean something relevant for doping

as they are not what's the point?

Perhaps not for new cycling fans but for people who know something more it is quite interesting, also for WADA target testing.

 

[la_bicicleta]

Because with a rider's weight and some TT/HC times, it's easy to estimate power potential of your competitors. It simplifies the various factors weighed for a grand tour podium. It would be a huge red flag for doping when power/weight ratios are reaching near 6.0/kilo in the third week of a grand tour.

Well they don't have to put them on a scale in public like in boxing. It just kind of grinds my gears when people have to speculate endlessly about a riders weight when it's something so simple to measure and record. Fat chance of something like that ever being implemented though......

* I had to go back to my original post and edit weight/weigh, Spanish is my first language.

 

[la_bicicleta]

Perhaps not for new cycling fans but for people who know something more it is quite interesting, also for WADA target testing.

Ha, can anybody imagine some sort of telemetry data in real time? showing power numbers and what not, I must be really bored tonight and it's past my bed time, I keep coming up with stupid ideas in my head.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Ha, can anybody imagine some sort of telemetry data in real time? showing power numbers and what not, I must be really bored tonight and it's past my bed time, I keep coming up with stupid ideas in my head.

I believe that was the plan a few years ago, ASO/UCI stopped it.

 

[Arrowfarm]

this would make sense if numbers like watts/kg would mean something relevant for doping

as they are not what's the point?

Data from the riders is not relevant... My bad

 

[42x16ss]

Ha, can anybody imagine some sort of telemetry data in real time? showing power numbers and what not, I must be really bored tonight and it's past my bed time, I keep coming up with stupid ideas in my head.

A few riders used to volunteer for this with the broadcasters as recently as '08 IIRC, Adam Hansen was one of them. It was just heart rate, speed etc, basic stuff. UCI or ASO quashed it. Probably because they didn't want anyone seeing Ricco's OTT numbers as he launched up climbs like the space shuttle was strapped to his bike

 

[Pandora]

Froome is the same weight all year give or take a kilo ?? relaxing in Kenya looks more than a kilo overweight since the Tour.

http://instagram.com/p/g2QfyOGxpE/#

In Kenya? And it's supposed to be Lake Victoria behind him?

I hope he sticks to pools there and doesn't swim in open waters, otherwise he'll have to take that bilharzia pills in January again... And we'll have to listen to the same story about difficult therapy and messed up bio-passport all over again.

 

[MartinGT]

Even after signing for Team Sky the barriers kept appearing: an exhausting struggle against the parasitic disease bilharzia; a debilitating allergic reaction to the latex in his cycling kit which brings his skin out in vicious welts.

The bilharzia he has to control with regular medication ("these pretty nasty pills which kill everything in your system, good and bad"). The allergy, which is getting worse, peaks when it is hot and humid - in other words, exactly the conditions he encounters in big stage races.

Wonder why its always out of season i.e during the cooler months he only has problem with it then!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/24951818

 

[the sceptic]

So Froome used to get dropped by everyone when he was 15. Yet he is the most talented rider of all time

Then there was his first pro contract, a typically spartan neo-pro's deal with the low-key Barloworld team, having emailed every manager and squad on the circuit for month after month, this time from his own email account.

Yes, the next Lemond would definitely need to beg to get the crappiest contract in the peloton. I guess this was before JV had seen the top secret test?

 

[nomapnocompass]

That article is pure nonsense worthy of the fairy tales that were perpetuated about Armstrong. But people just don't learn... shocking

 

[roundabout]

So Froome used to get dropped by everyone when he was 15. Yet he is the most talented rider of all time



Yes, the next Lemond would definitely need to beg to get the crappiest contract in the peloton. I guess this was before JV had seen the top secret test?

Seems a bit weird. He was almost South African then and had a decent 2007. I really doubt that he had to beg that much.

 

[gooner]

"When first-time offenders are given a four-year ban, that's quite serious for a sport when the window is very short. You can only be a professional for 15 years. It is a harsh penalty and that's what we need to see in cycling," Froome said.

"It was a very difficult time in the Tour De France. Everybody was asking me... and people were saying to me you could be doping," he recounted. "It definitely added stress during the tour."

"That hit me quite hard, but it was something I expected, because post-Lance Armstrong everyone was asking questions about it and I came to accept it, because I knew it came from the past and everyone putting on the yellow jersey could be asked about doping."

http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/Cycling/International/Froome-backs-tougher-penalties-20131119?

 

[Ferminal]

Wonder why its always out of season i.e during the cooler months he only has problem with it then!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/24951818

Would be sad to see his time at the top cut short due to latex allergy.

 

[darwin553]

I join with Froome in welcoming the increase in the penalty for doping to four years - a good deterrent for any rider to not take up or desist from doping.

 

[doperhopper]

I join with Froome in welcoming the increase in the penalty for doping to four years - a good deterrent for any rider to not take up or desist from doping.

I'm sure The Mighty Uniballer in his prime would look the same - supporting the harshestest lifetime bans for the first offense, disbanding the team, jailing the team bosses... anything, once you're the protected "chosen" one

 

[Taxus4a]

I join with Froome in welcoming the increase in the penalty for doping to four years

I join as well

 

[Opalius]

I join with Froome in welcoming the increase in the penalty for doping to four years - a good deterrent for any rider to not take up or desist from doping.

Seconded, although I truly hope he will never face the increased penalty himself.

Guilty or innocent; if the Dawg's deemed dirty so is the rest of the current peloton.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I'm sure The Mighty Uniballer in his prime would look the same - supporting the harshestest lifetime bans for the first offense, disbanding the team, jailing the team bosses... anything, once you're the protected "chosen" one

Good post +1

 

[the sceptic]

Would be sad to see his time at the top cut short due to latex allergy.

Not to mention he wont be able to work as a latex salesman once his career is over.