Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[red_flanders]

Its funny to google search the dawg up until the 2011 vuelta. You can find gold like this:

this one is funny too

Dawg seems to be a slow learner.

And of course, his most famous moment:

A champion from the get go. It's like he and his team just knew of his impending greatness. Clearly an inevitable, inexorable march to the top of the sport.

 

[The Hitch]

The year and month Froome was ill with Bilharzi

You'll have to be more specific. Froome claims to have had bilharzia for the best part of a decade

 

[The Hitch]

Back then his goal was to finish a GT, how times change.

And he couldn't even manage that.

But as froome says, if you want something badly enough, you'll find a way.

Froome found a way. He didn't just finish the next gt. He found himself on the podium, a team tactical mistake away from winning.

 

[SundayRider]

And he couldn't even manage that.

But as froome says, if you want something badly enough, you'll find a way.

Froome found a way. He didn't just finish the next gt. He found himself on the podium, a team tactical mistake away from winning.

four GTs went by between Giro 2010 and Vuelta 2011 and he did not get selected for one of them.

 

[Nathan12]

I actually think Vuelta 2011 was his most ridiculous performance of all. Beat Wiggins in the time trial, then that sprint up Pena Cabarga- to my mind more astonishing than anything he's done since.

 

[ciranda]

What we know is Froome underwent the least likely transformation since maybe Riis, certainly The Chicken."

Rasmussen did not have a *transformation*. He was with the best in the mountains from 2002 when he won at Lagunas Negra de Neila in Vuelta a Burgos.

 

[thehog]

I actually think Vuelta 2011 was his most ridiculous performance of all. Beat Wiggins in the time trial, then that sprint up Pena Cabarga- to my mind more astonishing than anything he's done since.

It's was funny reading the threads at the time in 2011. Even the bots were saying Froome would drop away in the second half of the Vuelta. They thought he wouldn't even figure in the ITT.

 

[Nathan12]

Rasmussen did not have a *transformation*. He was with the best in the mountains from 2002 when he won at Lagunas Negra de Neila in Vuelta a Burgos.

This. MR was always a great climber. It was when his TTs started to go stratospheric in addition that people got really suspicious. That and the whereabouts. But the guy definitely didn't come from nowhere.

 

[GuyIncognito]

It was when his TTs started to go stratospheric in addition that people got really suspicious

According to his book, it took years to perfect the doping cocktail

Now think of all the guys who were good but not great, perfected the cocktail that suited their own body and dominated, then compare the guys who might've been brilliant but never perfected it and didn't have the results their talent deserved

 

[SundayRider]

According to his book, it took years to perfect the doping cocktail

Now think of all the guys who were good but not great, perfected the cocktail that suited their own body and dominated, then compare the guys who might've been brilliant but never perfected it and didn't have the results their talent deserved

I'd rather think of all the talented guys who choose not to dope at all, to be honest.

 

[Colonel]

You'll have to be more specific. Froome claims to have had bilharzia for the best part of a decade

November 2010

 

[oldcrank]

The brand new Rapha Team SKY Mount Diablo T-Shirt is
somewhat evocative of your lovely artwork, my friend.
http://www.rapha.cc/gb/en/shop/new-arrivals/category/new-arrivals

 

[Granville57]

and a plot of google maps when he climbed San Luca behind renowned climber Simon Gerrans.

The brand new Rapha Team SKY Mount Diablo T-Shirt is
somewhat evocative of your lovely artwork, my friend.

 

[thehog]

That is awesome. Rapha have tracked the Dawg. Can they get the silhouette or stencil of the Dawg falling off his TT bike?

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

The Hog: finger on the pulse...

 

[Digger]

That is awesome. Rapha have tracked the Dawg. Can they get the silhouette or stencil of the Dawg falling off his TT bike?

The thing is that they say improved bike handling and tactics are the reasons....his style is still awful. His tactics are actually brainless. The only reason he gets away with it is that he's so much stronger than everyone else.

I mean if this is an improvement, the guy must have been pushing other riders instead of cycling...oh wait


And this improvement all came about in 4 weeks. From Poland to the Vuelta...sky fans are a joke.


If Froome was American, had the exact same career trajectory, and rode for BMC, what would they say...

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

His tactics are actually brainless.

Not according to the Gospel of Saint David, didnt you get the memo the Ventoux stage was a tactical masterclass by the new cycling God?

 

[The Hitch]

The thing is that they say improved bike handling and tactics are the reasons....his style is still awful. His tactics are actually brainless. The only reason he gets away with it is that he's so much stronger than everyone else.

I mean if this is an improvement, the guy must have been pushing other riders instead of cycling...oh wait


And this improvement all came about in 4 weeks. From Poland to the Vuelta...sky fans are a joke.


If Froome was American, had the exact same career trajectory, and rode for BMC, what would they say...

Not according to the Gospel of Saint David, didnt you get the memo the Ventoux stage was a tactical masterclass by the new cycling God?

Then one day, the genius tactics just stopped working.

http://pvcycling.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/top-pro-surprised-that-time-on-front-doesnt-lead-to-win-at-tirenno-adriatico/

Richie Porte, the leader for Team Sky at Tirenno-Adriatico, expressed surprise today that his race tactics did not result in a stage win atop the climb to Selvarotonda. “I was on the front for most of the climb,” said Porte, in disbelief. “I was killing those guys.”

Alberto Contador, winner of the day’s stage, couldn’t explain the result either. “You know, Richie was up there on the front of the group, just drilling it really hard into a huge headwind up a very long and challenging climb. It’s hard to understand how he didn’t win.”...

 

[Arnout]

Nicely coming into form for the Tour although there still is work to do.

 

[thehog]

68kg's?







.............

 

[LaFlorecita]

I give him 65 tops

 

[thehog]

I give him 65 tops

63 @ the Tour. Painfully thin.

 

[the sceptic]

Nicely coming into form for the Tour although there still is work to do.

remember when Froome was cleans because he only did 5.99w/kg? good times.

 

[Arnout]

68kg's?







.............

Help me again, with less kg there you'll need to develop less watts right? Making the performance more believable?

I always have a lot of trouble processing this sort of abstract information

 

[thehog]

Help me again, with less kg there you'll need to develop less watts right? Making the performance more believable?

I always have a lot of trouble processing this sort of abstract information

Tip it on its head. Other way around. Less believable. Even .5kg makes a difference.

Chris Hoy can pump out 1000w for a short period and probably weights almost twice as much as Froome. Less weight means you have to get the power from somewhere.

That's why Wiggins & Dawg who climb like they do carrying circa 65kgs but then ITT like Tony Martin with so little weight. Meaning higher watts p/kg.

So, yes, lower weight means more ***.