Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Franklin]

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That's torelli's site
Notice the top banner. "McGann Puhlishing's bike race info". Bill and Carol McGann, aka Torelli

Ah I simply did not know, hence I gave the link. The insider name Torelli sticks out a bit less than the site name itself

 

[sniper]

He is so far up Froome's *** it's not even funny anymore.

He,s not even hiding it anymore.
Fair to say he,s come out of the closet.

 

[Franklin]

So you're asking for people to ignore your points?

I beg your pardon?

 

[red_flanders]

I beg your pardon?

I don't understand the evasiveness about the specifics.

 

[deValtos]

So why hasn't Froome ever top-10'ed a flat prologue?

I just checked his results for all short ITT's on cq ranking and they are actually ok ... all after the "transformation" though.

2013
4th in Crit Internation @2 seconds
6th in Tirreno (was stage 7 but winning time was 10"25) @15 seconds
1st in Romandie (hilly from what I remember though)

2011
4th in Bejing @26 seconds

I don't think he's competed in too many prologues recently ... they're not very common, tours going for road racing stage 1 now

 

[gooner]

Looks like last year Walsh was up Twiggi's @rse, he must have missed Froomies TT at Romandie:
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=23882

As if that was a similar kind of route to today.

That profile was well suited to Froome.

 

[Franklin]

Cant you just link them then?
I mean why are you deliberately removing the names of riders and the races? What is there possibly to hide in this information that you are trying to prove a point with?

I wondered if anyone would be able to guess the TdF. I am also waiting for the explanation of that suspicious spread pre-epo.

In other words, much ado about nothing. It 8 seconds in a ten km TT. Indeed it's just as strange that all these people had the same time

 

[Franklin]

So why hasn't Froome ever top-10'ed a flat prologue?

There's got to be a first time? Again, considering his prowess in long TT's this is simply to be expected. And he's transformed about two years, so here we have his first short TT classification. We can expect more and that's just basic statistics.

Name a top level TT specialist who never win a Prologue or ended really close. It's bound he gets a few more.

And before anyone starts, that holds true before and after epo. A TT specialist almost always does well in both short and long events. Surely there will be exceptions (Mottet???), but generally someone who is able to win a long TT will finish short in a prologue somewhere along the line.

 

[Franklin]

I don't understand the evasiveness about the specifics.

Ahh okay. The years were 1989 and 1976. I'm not going to recheck unless you really want but in the Hinault years there's another one just like that.

 

[roundabout]

There's got to be a first time? Again, considering his prowess in long TT's this is simply to be expected. And he's transformed about two years, so here we have his first short TT classification. We can expect more and that's just basic statistics.

Name a top level TT specialist who never win a Prologue or ended really close. It's bound he gets a few more.

And before anyone starts, that holds true before and after epo. A TT specialist almost always does well in both short and long events. Surely there will be exceptions (Mottet???), but generally someone who is able to win a long TT will finish short in a prologue somewhere along the line.

Tony Martin comes to mind, but I would need to recheck

Well, no, but last time was 2008 when he won an under 10k TT

 

[TourOfSardinia]

He [Walsh] is so far up Froome's *** it's not even funny anymore.

Now that's what I call embedded

 

[Netserk]

There's got to be a first time? Again, considering his prowess in long TT's this is simply to be expected. And he's transformed about two years, so here we have his first short TT classification. We can expect more and that's just basic statistics.

Name a top level TT specialist who never win a Prologue or ended really close. It's bound he gets a few more.

And before anyone starts, that holds true before and after epo. A TT specialist almost always does well in both short and long events. Surely there will be exceptions (Mottet???), but generally someone who is able to win a long TT will finish short in a prologue somewhere along the line.

Former WC Bert Grabsch.

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

Former WC Bert Grabsch.

And Sergey Gonchar
But they obviously lack the explosiveness required for prologues

 

[Netserk]

Tony Martin comes to mind, but I would need to recheck

Well, no, but last time was 2008 when he won an under 10k TT

IIRC the only prologue he has ever podiumed, was over 8km long. (Yes for some reason the 8.9km ITT in the 2010 Tour was not stage 1, but a prologue.... Weird)

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Contador second and he was taking it easy on the second part (Apparently). Besides when did Alberto start doing so well in prologues. Seems like he had a good result?

 

[BYOP88]

Thanks for the advanced warning Mr Badzilla. I now don't have to waste anytime in July watching the Tour.

 

[thehog]

Thanks for the advanced warning Mr Badzilla. I now don't have to waste anytime in July watching the Tour.

Don't worry the Badzhilla clinic is right next door to the dope-testing facility.

Allows one to flatline out those peaks.

 

[the sceptic]

Contador second and he was taking it easy on the second part (Apparently). Besides when did Alberto start doing so well in prologues. Seems like he had a good result?

weak field

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

weak field

Obivously. What year was this. Must be after his first Tour win?

Edit. 2009 if Wiggins is at Garmin.

So anything prior to him winning the Tour?

 

[BYOP88]

Obivously. What year was this. Must be after his first Tour win?

Well Wiggans only spent 1 year at Garmin.

 

[infeXio]

He won the prologue in 2010 Dauphine as well, if I'm not mistaken

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

He won the prologue in 2010 Dauphine as well, if I'm not mistaken

Again, after his first Tour win. So not that different to what Froome has done here.

Neither should be winning prologues yet many poster here find it acceptable for Contador to do well and not Froome.

If you support someone that dopes then don't complain when they themselves are beaten by a doper.

Edit. That last part is not aimed at you specifcally infeXio.

 

[the sceptic]

Obivously. What year was this. Must be after his first Tour win?

Edit. 2009 if Wiggins is at Garmin.

So anything prior to him winning the Tour?

Contador was clean in 2009. And he has many other good prologue results as well.

Meanwhile.. Dawg would struggle to get in the top 100 on a good day.

 

[Nathan12]

Contador was clean in 2009. And he has many other good prologue results as well.

Meanwhile.. Dawg would struggle to get in the top 100 on a good day.

Clean in 2009? Verbier? Hmmm.

 

[red_flanders]

Ahh okay. The years were 1989 and 1976. I'm not going to recheck unless you really want but in the Hinault years there's another one just like that.

Thanks. Was just curious.