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LaFlorecita

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thehog said:
All those poor performances in the book listed out. Never once mentioned asthma... :rolleyes:

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Hoggy can you search for coughing? See what it says?
 
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Will Carter said:
Unlikely to be Xenon - doesn't work that quickly from what I've read.
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As in I thought you needed to breathe it for about an hour or something, and then the effects would be to raise natural EPO level over the next couple of days. Can't imagine it would work with one small puff in the middle of a race.

And even if it is Salbutamol (or similar) it doesn't necessarily mean he is a long term chronic asthmatic - I know loads of people who have been prescribed a 'puffer' (as we call them) just once. When it ran out, it ran out and another one wasn't needed - even my son, seems to me they just handed it out as he had a bout of shortness of breath for a couple of days.

Now, if he hasn't been prescribed it then why is he taking it? If its so much within the limits does it really give such a boost? And if it does why isn't everyone else doing it (they may be, but may be people may not have been looking to see it on TV, etc.)? This may well be perfectly innocent, it may also be SKY 'pushing the rules to the limit' as they have said in the past. I doubt though this is some smoking gun ...
 
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Although entertaining, today's performance at the Dauphine was a bit too much for my taste.
I hope ASO will search for the publicity in the World Cup year by showing to us what's happening in the backstage and dressing rooms.
It has already happened before.
 
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thehog said:
All those poor performances in the book listed out. Never once mentioned asthma... :rolleyes:

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Maybe he just discovered it? Sometimes you can have a disease like this for years without noticing :rolleyes:

Cant wait for Dawg to get this under control so he can unlock his true potential. Anything less than 8w/kg will be a disappointment.
 
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I don't think it's anything untoward.

I just think it's funny and very suspicious that a person writes a entire book and fails to mention it. Now some may think 'so what' but considering the entire first half of the book is dedicated to his poor performances and explaining them in detail you think asthma would have come up.

He talks though the minor sicknesses, the coughs etc. but never suggests that this could be due to his asthma.

I have asthma. I know how it works and how it impacts your sporting life. You forever manage it in relation to your sport (and I'm ***).

It's all very odd. Just odd.
 
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I can't help but wonder if - like several others in the past - the reason Froome has this deep rooted need to crush everyone every single race and burn watts like there's no tomorrow......isn't due to knowing he's good only because of drugs while others have talent+drugs
 
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I can't help but wonder if - like several others in the past - the reason Froome has this deep rooted need to crush everyone every single race and burn watts like there's no tomorrow......isn't due to knowing he's good only because of drugs while others have talent+drugs
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I think he is still bitter about almost not getting a new contract in 2011. I believe his thinking is along the lines: "See what I can do when I play the game by your rules."
 
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The exercise-induced asthma thing has been going on for a long, long time. A very high percentage of cyclists claim to have it. It seems pretty clear that it's a way to allow riders to consume PED's legally under the rules. Pretty much standard part of the program in the 90's and 00's. Not sure now.

Froome is far from the only rider to do this.
It is unlikely that he has asthma and no TUE.
It's easy enough to take it without a TUE.
It's historically been part of rider preparation.
It's probably not making a huge difference either way.

It's possible that he actually, really does have it. It's possible he doesn't. It is odd that he apparently doesn't have a TUE for it.

It continues to be extremely odd that his betrothed responds to such discussions on Twitter.

It's pretty odd for a guy with so many doping accusations against him to dose this way during a race. There will be a PR scramble, but they should have put it out there a long time ago. No one on the team was ready for this kind of video to go 'round the net, but they should have been.

Liars lie, and then scramble for explanations. And call people names apparently. #reactivePRconvincesnobody
 
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As in I thought you needed to breathe it for about an hour or something, and then the effects would be to raise natural EPO level over the next couple of days. Can't imagine it would work with one small puff in the middle of a race.
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This is more or less what I wanted to post as well. There's one more reason why it's unlikely to be xenon: the active substance in inhalers is usually some solution or fine powder, as far as I know. Xenon is a gas with a boiling point close to -100
 
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As in I thought you needed to breathe it for about an hour or something, and then the effects would be to raise natural EPO level over the next couple of days. Can't imagine it would work with one small puff in the middle of a race.
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This is more or less what I wanted to post as well. There's one more reason why it's unlikely to be xenon: the active substance in inhalers is usually some solution or fine powder, as far as I know. Xenon is a gas with a boiling point close to -100C (or -160F), so it is safe to assume it will (as PED) only be used as a gas. Since it's a gas, the amount of xenon one can actually inhale with a single puff will be minimal and most certainly not enough to actually be effective.

A far more interesting question is why Froome keeps challenging the cycling public. It seems like no one is better at hinting that Froome is doping than himself. And lately the amount of innuendo he generates is massive. As a cyclist you know there will be doping allegations when you use an inhaler during a race, or when you exclaim about riders not getting tested while training at the exact same spot as oneself, or when climbing the Madone faster than a certain texan, not even to mention the book. What good reason could there possibly be for doing all these things in such a short time frame? What is there to gain for him?
 
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Hoggy can you search for coughing? See what it says?
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Nothing unusual. Coughing is mentioned but never in the context of asthma. But as an asthmatic myself I rarely cough. With asthma you "wheeze". As asthma you're not trying to dislodge something stuck in throat rather you're trying to open up your lungs as they are constricted.

There's also nothing under sicknesses or TUEs etc. no mention of inhalers or anything asthma related in the book.
 
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