Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Catwhoorg]

seriously though, it could indeed be xenon.

Xenon wouldn't be used in a race. It would be used during training.

Used to enhance red cell production by hypoxia. try to do that IC and it would be a huge detriment to performance.

A little puff like that wouldn't actually do anything.

 

[The Hitch]

Im going to thank you for the link, as nobody else will.

Because most of us don't care about this asthma thing. You are trying to make a bigger deal out of it then most so that you can then say -oh look, the clinic is so stupid they take a tweet about asthma as proof of doping.

For most of us this asthma isn't in the top million reasons to doubt sky.

 

[Catwhoorg]

Incorrect. No, you do not need a TUE for salbutamol unless its over 16 puffs a day.

Clinic quoting facts that aren't facts again.

I'll happily stand corrected on that fact.

My mistake, given the publicity around the widespread abuse of inhalers in certain running communities, I was under the impression that TUE's were required in all cases.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Jesus she's losing it. WTF.

Froome fans will take up the call though. Despite the troll label being misplaced, the fans will accept the original query as a definition of "trolling" and use it from now on to defend Froome etc.

Think of it as Cound educating fans as much as responding to a legitimate, valid, rational query.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

All those poor performances in the book listed out. Never once mentioned asthma...

Can you do a search on "cough"?

Hoggy can you search for coughing? See what it says?

Hah!

 

[thehog]

I'll happily stand corrected on that fact.

My mistake, given the publicity around the widespread abuse of inhalers in certain running communities, I was under the impression that TUE's were required in all cases.

How could the Dawg be any cleaner?

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Froome apparently dropped out of the US Pro Challenge last year because of Asthma, so it's not a totally new thing.

http://www.businessinsider.com/usa-pro-challenge-is-an-insane-race-party-2013-8?op=1

Thanks. Would be interested how you found that article, as the waters are muddied on "chris froom asthma" now, thanks to the current uproar.

 

[thehog]

Thanks. Would be interested how you found that article, as the waters are muddied on "chris froom asthma" now, thanks to the current uproar.

Wiggins has asthma. In fact 25% of Team GB for London did.

https://www.drthom.com/blog/in-the-news/team-gb-beat-exercise-induced-asthma-london-olympics/

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/heal...ffer-from-exerciseinduced-asthma-7975769.html

 

[TailWindHome]

Froome fans will take up the call though. Despite the troll label being misplaced, the fans will accept the original query as a definition of "trolling" and use it from now on to defend Froome etc.

Think of it as Cound educating fans as much as responding to a legitimate, valid, rational query.

It wasn't trolling. It was puke journalism.

 

[Granville57]

Wiggins has asthma. In fact 25% of Team GB for London did.

https://www.drthom.com/blog/in-the-news/team-gb-beat-exercise-induced-asthma-london-olympics/

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/heal...ffer-from-exerciseinduced-asthma-7975769.html

So back-to-back TdF winners have asthma. Is that a record, or just a lucky coincidence? Surprised that Wiggo, Froome, Braislford and Sky haven't made more of this as part of an awareness campaign. Truly inspiring. <cough>

 

[Beech Mtn]

She called them trolls. Trolls. FFS.

Wonder if David Walsh notices the irony in the choice of words?

She apparently also did this, before deleting it:

https://twitter.com/BisikletSporu/status/476111365061742593

 

[red_flanders]

So back-to-back TdF winners have asthma. Is that a record, or just a lucky coincidence? Surprised that Wiggo, Froome, Braislford and Sky haven't made more of this as part of an awareness campaign. Truly inspiring. <cough>

The percentage of cyclists claiming "exercise-induced asthma" has always been high.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/...pians-have-asthma/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

Asthma is a bit of a misnomer. It's bronchial constriction. Happens a lot. And easy to get a diagnosis, and subsequently a TUE for some interesting substances.

 

[The Hitch]

Wonder if David Walsh notices the irony in the choice of words?

She apparently also did this, before deleting it:

https://twitter.com/BisikletSporu/status/476111365061742593

Leslie Cohen says she saw it too.

So Cound really did tweet that.

Wow, just wow.

 

[BYOP88]

WOW!!

That's some crazy stuff. I want Froome to get busted just so I can witness Cound's meltdown.

 

[msjett]

I have had a good laugh on my lunch break today excellent comments/discussion on this thread....I realised I don't need to watch the races, I can come in here and get better entertainment.

 

[M Sport]

I have had a good laugh on my lunch break today excellent comments/discussion on this thread....I realised I don't need to watch the races, I can come in here and get better entertainment.

I will second that. I watched the last 5km on youtube and then come here for the comments. You just could not make this stuff up to be more of an insulting comedy than what Froome, Cound et al are doing to pro cycling. As much as I disliked Armstrong between 2004 and 2012 this is worse.

Froome, Porte, Sky, the book, what an f n joke.

 

[Granville57]

I love how according to Kirby, Froome does "the old 1-2" all by himself, no need of a second guy for the 1-2. Froome does it all by himself

Kirby was practically hyperventilating during Froome's attacks, not to mention the hysteria as they approached the finish line. Get that man an inhaler!

does Michelle Cound read the clinic?

She used to post here but has since deleted everything except for her account.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIAWEAnzuAg&sns=em

From 55s - question is; where does the pump comes from and where does it go?

Does he hold on to it or is it hidden in his glove or something?

Does he not carry it in his back pocket? When he wears a skin suit?

It seems to be tucked into his hand before and after. Just a quick little maneuver that only just happened to be caught on camera. Most odd that he would never mention this previously. Odd indeed.

(And the only prior source of his asthma, apparently, is the Business Insider?)

 

[Fzotrlool]

 

[Fzotrlool]

^^ Gummiberry Juice?

 

[Afrank]

Kirby was practically hyperventilating during Froome's attacks, not to mention the hysteria as they approached the finish line. Get that man an inhaler!

The guys an idiot, but I'll give him one thing, he can get excited over anything. Even the most boring of sprinter stages. I'll be sitting there going "yep, gonna be an easy Kittel win" and he'll be shouting at the top of his lungs as if every one of the greatest sprinters of all time were going head to head (and of course getting all the names wrong ).

 

[sniper]

All copies of 'The Climb' are getting recalled, so an asthma chapter can be added.

lol.

I do hope we get walshs pov on this soon.
The way he,s sucking on that thing, really draining it.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

It seems to be tucked into his hand before and after. Just a quick little maneuver that only just happened to be caught on camera. Most odd that he would never mention this previously. Odd indeed.

Did he wait until the camera was off him before taking the puff, and only just get caught as the camera swung back to him?

 

[red_flanders]

He attacked Contador 3 times, 2 times directly in a row, one small and one big attack, to try and get rid of him, realized he couldn't drop him, resorted to keeping the group together and then attack one last time for the stage win. I fail to see why this is so bad tactically. I mean there is only so much you can do, when you can't drop a rider who also won't work together with you.

Just watched the finale. To say it was bad tactically is to assume a rider within some reasonable proximity form-wise to the other riders. Because that's how say...the last 35 years of bike racing that I've watched have been raced.

Froome attacked. Then waved Contador through. That in itself was idiotic–why on earth would Contador come through in that situation? Can't get over how dumb that looked. But never mind. Then Froome went to the front and pulled for a couple of k's, almost never coming off the front, while in the leader's jersey mind you. Why? Why would the leader pull on the front while not attacking?

In case you haven't watched the last 100 years or so of bike racing, race leaders generally wait for their rivals to attack them. In rare cases they try and put down the hammer at some point and win, but they don't do it by pacing the leading group for a few k. Further, what people typically do when they attack is move to the back or side and try to swing by, getting an extra couple of seconds before those being attacked have time to react. Attacking from the front is that rarest of things, done only when you're sure you're much stronger than the rest. Froome did it over and over, when it was clear he was not much stronger than Contador at all. It's so dumb tactically I can't even believe I was watching it. But if you're sure you're so strong it doesn't matter...

That after all that buffoonery he won the stage is incredible. He's just ridiculously strong. By all accounts from all types of fans, people generally see Contador as on the full program this year. Has looked that way since the early season, and Froome has seen it as well. But he still believes he's that much stronger and is probably right.

Great to see a clean champion after all these years...

 

[TANK91]

I will second that. I watched the last 5km on youtube and then come here for the comments. You just could not make this stuff up to be more of an insulting comedy than what Froome, Cound et al are doing to pro cycling. As much as I disliked Armstrong between 2004 and 2012 this is worse.

Froome, Porte, Sky, the book, what an f n joke.

Yeah the stuff their on is crazy i mean Kelderman and Contador all bread and water.

 

[sniper]

Did he wait until the camera was off him before taking the puff, and only just get caught as the camera swung back to him?

yes, looks like it.