Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[rhubroma]

Just watched the finale. To say it was bad tactically is to assume a rider within some reasonable proximity form-wise to the other riders. Because that's how say...the last 35 years of bike racing that I've watched have been raced.

Froome attacked. Then waved Contador through. That in itself was idiotic

 

[Dazed and Confused]

It will be hilarious watching 15 riders at the business end of a tough tour stage all puffing on inhalers.

Another crazy development.

And Froome better bring home the bacon. Cound is waiting........

 

[red_flanders]

All of that is true.
Yet it was also true of Merckx.

Whaaaaat?? What part of the horror show we watched today has anything to do with Merckx?

 

[sniper]

All copies of 'The Climb' are getting recalled, so an asthma chapter can be added.

lol.


The way he,s sucking on that thing, really draining it.
I do hope we get walshs pov on this soon. Get our intelligence insulted.
I expect an excuse along the lines of "froome chose not to disclose his asthma in the book, as it would give an unfair advantage to his opponents"

 

[rhubroma]

This is what Martinelli had to say in la Gazzetta dello Sport:

"When I saw Froome accelerate like that I didn't believe my own eyes: a monster, something of the supernatural. He wanted to show beyond discussion that he is the best. I'd like to ask Contador what it felt like to hold his wheel..."

 

[msjett]

The guys an idiot, but I'll give him one thing, he can get excited over anything. Even the most boring of sprinter stages. I'll be sitting there going "yep, gonna be an easy Kittel win" and he'll be shouting at the top of his lungs as if every one of the greatest sprinters of all time were going head to head (and of course getting all the names wrong ).

Yeah but him and the other dude commentating yesterdays stage were carrying on like school girls - everytime they say"Froomie" I want to puke....Sounds like Paul and Phil in the days when they were still in love with Armstrong.

 

[GuyIncognito]

The guys an idiot, but I'll give him one thing, he can get excited over anything. Even the most boring of sprinter stages. I'll be sitting there going "yep, gonna be an easy Kittel win" and he'll be shouting at the top of his lungs as if every one of the greatest sprinters of all time were going head to head (and of course getting all the names wrong ).

My favorite part was when he spotted Elissonde, the tiniest man in the peloton, and assured us that it wasn't Elissonde, it was Boucher....who is very tall, very heavy and not a climber in the slightest

Whaaaaat?? What part of the horror show we watched today has anything to do with Merckx?

No tactics, no thinking, just crush crush crush crush and damn the consequences.
Or as Owen Mulhulland likes to say, 'Merckx always rode as if every stage was the last one of the season'

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Kirby is the British Bob Roll.

The guy's a Sky fan masquerading as a sports commentator.

 

[42x16ss]

Kirby is the British Bob Roll.

The guy's a Sky fan masquerading as a sports commentator.

I've never heard Kirby's commentary before until the Giro and I thought he wasn't too bad but that seems to be because Sky generally sucked apart from Cataldo and Henao.

Last night was pathetic - worse than Matt Keenan when Evans won the WC.

 

[frenchfry]

It seems to be tucked into his hand before and after. Just a quick little maneuver that only just happened to be caught on camera. Most odd that he would never mention this previously. Odd indeed.

(And the only prior source of his asthma, apparently, is the Business Insider?)

I'm not big on conspiracy theories, but what is interesting here isn't so much that he is ingesting something but the fact that he appears to be concealing his action.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Wonder if David Walsh notices the irony in the choice of words?

She apparently also did this, before deleting it:

https://twitter.com/BisikletSporu/status/476111365061742593

Leslie Cohen says she saw it too.

So Cound really did tweet that.

Wow, just wow.

Yes I saw it too, that was what my "she's losing it" comment was about. I quoted it when she posted it. Twitter Rule #1: quote really offensive posts because they might as well get deleted

 

[LaFlorecita]

WOW!!

That's some crazy stuff. I want Froome to get busted just so I can witness Cound's meltdown.

I want Alberto to beat Froome just to see her reaction I bet the doping insinuations would come flying

 

[Dear Wiggo]

I want Alberto to beat Froome just to see her reaction I bet the doping insinuations would come flying

I want Alberto to beat Froome because on the way they will break the VAMometer.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I want Alberto to beat Froome because on the way they will break the VAMometer.

7 W/kg ?

 

[simoni]

I've never heard Kirby's commentary before until the Giro and I thought he wasn't too bad but that seems to be because Sky generally sucked apart from Cataldo and Henao.

Last night was pathetic - worse than Matt Keenan when Evans won the WC.

Sure that wasnt Rob Hatch? Similar voices admittedly but they differ in that one is pretty good and the other isnt...

 

[Avoriaz]

Sure that wasnt Rob Hatch? Similar voices admittedly but they differ in that one is pretty good and the other isnt...

Rob Hatch on Eurosport, but Kirby commentated for Sky Sports

 

[UlleGigo]

He attacked Contador 3 times, 2 times directly in a row, one small and one big attack, to try and get rid of him, realized he couldn't drop him, resorted to keeping the group together and then attack one last time for the stage win. I fail to see why this is so bad tactically. I mean there is only so much you can do, when you can't drop a rider who also won't work together with you.

Haven't watched much cycling have you mate? Read around a bit I'm sure it won't take you very long to realise how truly bad yersterday's display from Froome was tactically.

The surprising thing is why Froome doesn't seem interested in tactics whatsoever. Armstrong showed ten times the tactical ability even in '99 and all he had to do was beat Alex Zulle.

As an aside I think we are starting to see why the Dawg was hailing the testers out to Teneriffe to visit his pal Contador. It would seem that Contador has been upgraded and is full program now. Interesting thing is with the Dawg's meta-tactics being as bad if not worse than his in race tactics, is Contador being smart and playing possum a little bit?

I mean only a fool would lay all their cards on the table at the Dauphine and Contador has shown he is no fool. Froome on the other hand. Well...

 

[42x16ss]

Sure that wasnt Rob Hatch? Similar voices admittedly but they differ in that one is pretty good and the other isnt...

I thought it was Kirby but might be wrong, it was the commentators on the SBS feed before Keenan and McKenzie took over. I think the second commentator was Dan Lloyd...

 

[elduggo]

I want Alberto to beat Froome because on the way they will break the VAMometer.

I want them both to get busted

 

[fruit bars with eyes]

I thought it was Kirby but might be wrong, it was the commentators on the SBS feed before Keenan and McKenzie took over. I think the second commentator was Dan Lloyd...

Eurosport yesterday was CK for sure- they are both terrible but CK is more hilariously in thrall to the wonder that is BC

 

[deeno1975]

Anyone who has Eurosport have a look at LeMond of Cycling. In his latest addition he talks about the upcoming tour and what happened at the Giro. Maybe someone with better tech skills than I could youtube it. To paraphrase what he said;

He was heartened by what he saw in the Giro that a talented young guy who was talented all his life coming into his prime and gets results. If you are talented, you are talented from a younger age. Not like you saw 20 years ago when guys would come out of no where and suddenly get talented.

He didn’t mention Froome or Horner directly but his opinion definitely covered them….

http://tv.eurosport.co.uk/search.shtml?query=lemond

 

[Ventoux Boar]

Leslie Cohen says she saw it too.

Well that's certainly a credible source. When not busy saving cycling she was publishing Overlord, the same guy who copied her on emails advising McQuaid on strategy. Not to mention the whole kimmage fund fiasco.

Surprised you're citing them as an authority.

 

[morteniversen]

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Originally Posted by kingjr
He attacked Contador 3 times, 2 times directly in a row, one small and one big attack, to try and get rid of him, realized he couldn't drop him, resorted to keeping the group together and then attack one last time for the stage win. I fail to see why this is so bad tactically. I mean there is only so much you can do, when you can't drop a rider who also won't work together with you.
Haven't watched much cycling have you mate? Read around a bit I'm sure it won't take you very long to realise how truly bad yersterday's display from Froome was tactically.

The surprising thing is why Froome doesn't seem interested in tactics whatsoever. Armstrong showed ten times the tactical ability even in '99 and all he had to do was beat Alex Zulle.

As an aside I think we are starting to see why the Dawg was hailing the testers out to Teneriffe to visit his pal Contador. It would seem that Contador has been upgraded and is full program now. Interesting thing is with the Dawg's meta-tactics being as bad if not worse than his in race tactics, is Contador being smart and playing possum a little bit?

I mean only a fool would lay all their cards on the table at the Dauphine and Contador has shown he is no fool. Froome on the other hand. Well...
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[42x16ss]

Indeed. I think we might be seeing a repeat of the '04 Dauphine...

For the newer crowd *cough*Skyborg*cough*, Iban Mayo went Full genius on every mountain stage while Armstrong cruised into second saying "WTF dude? The Tour's in July!"

The rest is history. The only question - who's playing Mayo's part?

 

[kingjr]

Haven't watched much cycling have you mate? Read around a bit I'm sure it won't take you very long to realise how truly bad yersterday's display from Froome was tactically.

The surprising thing is why Froome doesn't seem interested in tactics whatsoever. Armstrong showed ten times the tactical ability even in '99 and all he had to do was beat Alex Zulle.

I mean only a fool would lay all their cards on the table at the Dauphine and Contador has shown he is no fool. Froome on the other hand. Well...

Exactly, Armstrong had only to beat Z