Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Afrank]

Cut it out with the personal attacks and trolling each other posts (Sceptic, ebandit, and Hog; I'm looking at you). And I'm going to quote TailWindHome and bold the important parts on this one.

If anyone objects to any post I've made feel free to report to the moderators.

Anything else is just childish.

i.e. don't start up a conversation about it. It tends to not lead anywhere nice.

With that, I think it's time to move on.

 

[Afrank]

Show who?

People who 'believe' in Sky will still believe
People who 'know' they're doping still know they're doping.

Show everyone; believer's, non-believers, and everyone in between. I agree there are many for whom it wouldn't change much, but I think there would also be a number who would take note of the effort to try to prove that he's clean.

Of course, if we were to assume he is dirty, then they're in a very difficult situation. As posting the data might give proof of doping, but not posting the data also opens up questions of what they're so afraid of.

 

[ralphbert]

If anyone objects to any post I've made feel free to report to the moderators.

Seeing as I put the flag in the ground I'll comment once more before moving on:
Mean spirited comments about riders private lives totally dilutes the "important" clinic issues and causes them to get lost in noise. If we can focus on performance, interviews and training schedules then it makes this resource a lot more powerful in lifting the curtain on what really goes on in pro cycling.

For me this is not a moderation issue but a clinic direction issue. Also I prefer self moderation rather than the hand of god coming down and plucking posts and people away. It also makes "us" look like a bunch of trolls as LA would say.

 

[Granville57]

I think it's time to move on.

For that matter, deleting the last four pages entirely wouldn't be much of a loss.

I refrained from commenting at all, because in the past, attempting to raise the bar on similar issues was only met with derision around here.

But that's all I will say on the matter.

 

[LaFlorecita]

For that matter, deleting the last four pages entirely wouldn't be much of a loss.

I refrained from commenting at all, because in the past, attempting to raise the bar on similar issues was only met with derision around here.

But that's all I will say on the matter.

Just delete all posts including the picture.

If TailWindHome wants to discuss the wedding of the Dawg and the Hound, he should post about it in the PRR section.

 

[oldcrank]

I thought TailWindHome may have been
wondering if ''Love is the Drug'' (to quote
Bryan Ferry/Roxy Music) responsible for
the Dawg's success as a professional
cyclist. After all, his meteoric rise to
Super Star Status closely followed the
lovely young couple's decision to move
in together. Behind every great man...
as the saying goes.

 

[Afrank]

For that matter, deleting the last four pages entirely wouldn't be much of a loss.

I refrained from commenting at all, because in the past, attempting to raise the bar on similar issues was only met with derision around here.

But that's all I will say on the matter.

Oh, it most definitely wouldn't be, I agree. But I don't want to over-delete. So I've just gotten rid of some of the more offensive posts and have any discussion of the picture go to the PRR section.

There was some conflict here but don't really want to delete it all and pretend nothing happened, if that makes sense, not entirely sure how to put it.

 

[the sceptic]

I thought TailWindHome may have been
wondering if ''Love is the Drug'' (to quote
Bryan Ferry/Roxy Music) responsible for
the Dawg's success as a professional
cyclist. After all, his meteoric rise to
Super Star Status closely followed the
lovely young couple's decision to move
in together. Behind every great man...
as the saying goes.

Maybe Michelle is smarter than she looks. Her mother also might know something about how to turn a donkey into a horse.

 

[ebandit]

Oh, it most definitely wouldn't be, I agree. But I don't want to over-delete. So I've just gotten rid of some of the more offensive posts and have any discussion of the picture go to the PRR section.

There was some conflict here but don't really want to delete it all and pretend nothing happened, if that makes sense, not entirely sure how to put it.

Quite right....just leave in Hog's offensive personal attack on Tailwind though ("grow up")....but then Hog has clearly got you in his pocket

Mark L

 

[Afrank]

Quite right....just leave in Hog's offensive personal attack on Tailwind though ("grow up")....but then Hog has clearly got you in his pocket

Mark L

Thank you for letting me know about something that I missed. I appreciate it.

 

[the sceptic]

Thank you for letting me know about something that I missed. I appreciate it.

Why did my post get deleted by not Oldcranks obvious troll post?

 

[ebandit]

Thank you for letting me know about something that I missed. I appreciate it.

Mark L

 

[ebandit]

Why did my post get deleted by not Oldcranks obvious troll post?

Because yours was nasty and mean-spirited and his isn't?.....just a guess

Mark L

 

[Granville57]

Must be a glitch in the forum.

All these posts from the mod thread somehow ended up in the Froome thread.

 

[sniper]

Excellent article !
Gotta wonder why this rings a bell with me ....

Yet Kenya’s doping problem appears more rooted within the country, particularly the doctors and pharmacists open to administering doping products, for even modest under-the-table payments, and writing them off as medical treatments (malaria apparently the most popular one). There are also plenty of foreign agents and coaches on the scene...

So Kenyan Doctors can sometimes be administering doping under the guise of treating tropical diseases .... imagine that ?

great post hidden in the "doping in other sports" thread. (see link in original post)

 

[The Hitch]

Watching HIGFY they are taking the **** out of the World Cup corruption thing, and one of them asks "why would an innocent person destroy all their emails", and the other person replies "tidyness", and they all laugh.

Makes me think. Why would a innocent person lie about their training and their disease and their past results etc.

hmmm.

 

[sniper]

Did they explain how they forgot to get Froome into a wind tunnel or test his vo2max?

good point.
so to get this straight, here's Sutton claiming Sky have recruited the best wind tunnel experts:

"you know, we recruit the best scientists, ehh...we recruit ehh....the best wind-tunnel experts, eh...."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzqqQYUIR8g

Yet Frroome supposedly has never tested his position and bike in a friggin wind tunnel:

Despite being the Olympic bronze medallist in the discipline and runner-up to Wiggins in both long time-trials in this year’s Tour, Froome has never tested his position and bike in a wind tunnel. In time-trial terms, he has been operating in the Stone Age, with elbows out as if riding a scooter.

[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/s...w.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... tions.html[/url]

really, who buys this crap?

 

[the sceptic]

Good. Another thing to add to the list of team sky lies.

They can't both have the leading wind tunnel experts and forget to put Froome in a wind tunnel at the same time. that makes no sense at all.

suggestion to hitch, maybe if you have a lot of time on your hands sometime you could compile a list of all the lies and contradictions from the sky camp which can then be used as a reference every time a bot says we must believe everything sky say.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Just thought I'd let you two lads know that the Sky thread is way down on page 4.

 

[veganrob]

Froome is not on Team Sky anymore?

 

[the sceptic]

Just thought I'd let you two lads know that the Sky thread is way down on page 4.

Thanks for this vital information.

 

[daveyt]

Good. Another thing to add to the list of team sky lies.

They can't both have the leading wind tunnel experts and forget to put Froome in a wind tunnel at the same time. that makes no sense at all.

suggestion to hitch, maybe if you have a lot of time on your hands sometime you could compile a list of all the lies and contradictions from the sky camp which can then be used as a reference every time a bot says we must believe everything sky say.

Whiat do you think is a lie sorry?

 

[sniper]

and the trolls come marching in.

Just thought I'd let you two lads know that the Sky thread is way down on page 4.

Whiat do you think is a lie sorry?

please tell me that at least you get paid for this

 

[the sceptic]

Whiat do you think is a lie sorry?

Both probably.

What do you think?

 

[TheSpud]

"and the trolls come marching in. "

"please tell me that at least you get paid for this"

So the fact they have a different view from you means they are trolls and shouldn't post here? Roll on censorship ...