Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[gooner]

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I saw Dr Swart and Dr Tucker had an argumet on twitter again. Swart upset that Tucker casts doubts over Froome, Tucker upset a performance by f.ex. Contador is met with way more calls of "doper! cheat!" than Froome.

Again, not the point. It's the inconsistency of yourself and others who would have no problem celebrating a Contador win today.

I don't think I've ever heard a rider get as much calls of "doper" and "cheat" as Froome at last year's Tour.

That Tour was a circus of it.

 

[roundabout]

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I'm fed up with this, he's vroom vrooming away from everyone on his moped. It's nonsense.

Meanwhile its obviously perfectly fine for Alberto to dope.

Your double standards makes me sick

Except that La Flo recognizes and makes no apologies for Alberto doping. So you are wrong. While so many of the Froome boys still can't accept that he dopes also.

You are the one who is wrong. Yes, she recognizes Contador's doping, but she never has any issues with it. That's what is being discussed.

 

[gooner]

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I'm fed up with this, he's vroom vrooming away from everyone on his moped. It's nonsense.

Meanwhile its obviously perfectly fine for Alberto to dope.

Your double standards makes me sick

So a "clean" Froome thrashes' a doped Contador and you don't see any hypocrisy in that???

That's not the point, if a doped to the gills Contador won yesterday, there wouldn't be word of criticism directed to him by his fans.

It would be celebrated. That has been the case with any of his previous wins.

Contador doesn't preach from on high that he is clean, Sky, Froome make it clear that they are not cheating and that marginal BS makes the difference. Hence hypocrisy.

Yes, he has and it has been discussed on numerous occasions.

 

[pastronef]

so again this old question: is the outrage of yesterday caused by the way teams/riders talk about being clean?

would all this madness end if Froome/Sky behaved like Astana/Tinkoff/Katusha/Movistar and just shut up and not brag about being clean?

 

[DFA123]

so again this old question: is the outrage of yesterday caused by the way teams/riders talk about being clean?

would all this madness end if Froome/Sky behaved like Astana/Tinkoff/Katusha/Movistar and just shut up and not brag about being clean?

I think Froome's biggest problem is that he got on the wagon and became a serious GC rider too late. Riders who have doped since juniors tend to get less criticism, because they are performing at more or less the same level throughout their career. Those who go to a full program later, or change their program, and make obviously ridiculous jumps in performance tend to get way more critcism and called out for doping much more (see also the likes of Zakarin and Horner).

 

[42x16ss]

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I'm fed up with this, he's vroom vrooming away from everyone on his moped. It's nonsense.

Meanwhile its obviously perfectly fine for Alberto to dope.

Your double standards makes me sick

Except that La Flo recognizes and makes no apologies for Alberto doping. So you are wrong. While so many of the Froome boys still can't accept that he dopes also.

Because their is 0 proof froome dopes or doped it is easy then to defend him. Contador has tested positive and has been in dodgy teams hard to defend him. If one day evidence froome dopes does appear less people will defend him is normal.

Thing is, Froome was at Barloworld before Sky - one of the dodgiest bunch of dopers that ever doped. Then he improved AFTER he left...

 

[peloton]

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I'm fed up with this, he's vroom vrooming away from everyone on his moped. It's nonsense.

Meanwhile its obviously perfectly fine for Alberto to dope.

Your double standards makes me sick

Except that La Flo recognizes and makes no apologies for Alberto doping. So you are wrong. While so many of the Froome boys still can't accept that he dopes also.

Because their is 0 proof froome dopes or doped it is easy then to defend him. Contador has tested positive and has been in dodgy teams hard to defend him. If one day evidence froome dopes does appear less people will defend him is normal.

Well Froome did ride for Barloworld, and had his -never seen before transformation- when Dr. Leinders was hired. You can ignore them, but don't expect others to do so.
I don't see anyone testifying that Contador is clean, quite the opposite.

 

[rick james]

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I'm fed up with this, he's vroom vrooming away from everyone on his moped. It's nonsense.

Meanwhile its obviously perfectly fine for Alberto to dope.

Your double standards makes me sick

Except that La Flo recognizes and makes no apologies for Alberto doping. So you are wrong. While so many of the Froome boys still can't accept that he dopes also.

Because their is 0 proof froome dopes or doped it is easy then to defend him. Contador has tested positive and has been in dodgy teams hard to defend him. If one day evidence froome dopes does appear less people will defend him is normal.

Well Froome did ride for Barloworld, and had his -never seen before transformation- when Dr. Leinders was hired. You can ignore them, but don't expect others to do so.
I don't see anyone testifying that Contador is clean, quite the opposite.

do you know how much contact Froome had with Dr. Leinders?

 

[Valv.Piti]

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I'm fed up with this, he's vroom vrooming away from everyone on his moped. It's nonsense.

Meanwhile its obviously perfectly fine for Alberto to dope.

Your double standards makes me sick

So a "clean" Froome thrashes' a doped Contador and you don't see any hypocrisy in that???

That's not the point, if a doped to the gills Contador won yesterday, there wouldn't be word of criticism directed to him by his fans.

It would be celebrated. That has been the case with any of his previous wins.

Exactly.

 

[Benotti69]

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I'm fed up with this, he's vroom vrooming away from everyone on his moped. It's nonsense.

Meanwhile its obviously perfectly fine for Alberto to dope.

Your double standards makes me sick

Except that La Flo recognizes and makes no apologies for Alberto doping. So you are wrong. While so many of the Froome boys still can't accept that he dopes also.

Because their is 0 proof froome dopes or doped it is easy then to defend him. Contador has tested positive and has been in dodgy teams hard to defend him. If one day evidence froome dopes does appear less people will defend him is normal.

There is a lot evidence that Froome dopes. A lot.

 

[rick james]

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I'm fed up with this, he's vroom vrooming away from everyone on his moped. It's nonsense.

Meanwhile its obviously perfectly fine for Alberto to dope.

Your double standards makes me sick

Except that La Flo recognizes and makes no apologies for Alberto doping. So you are wrong. While so many of the Froome boys still can't accept that he dopes also.

Because their is 0 proof froome dopes or doped it is easy then to defend him. Contador has tested positive and has been in dodgy teams hard to defend him. If one day evidence froome dopes does appear less people will defend him is normal.

There is a lot evidence that Froome dopes. A lot.

show us the facts then!

 

[BigMac]

There's what we could call evidence, there just isn't proof. Discussions would become much more fluid and easy if people understood this.

 

[Arrowfarm]

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Start by reading this thread. Plenty of facts here to show all the inconsistencies and lies by vroome and sky, as well as plenty of evidence to show anyone with half a brain that vroome is doping as much as the next gc contender.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

Not roasting hot = less effectiveness of the heat activated dope. I'd give Froome a 1/5 on the Ricco scale for today.

 

[Benotti69]

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show us the facts then!

They have been discussed at length already in this thread ad nauseum.

That you want it all repeated is trolling.

 

[peloton]

@rick james Of course I don't. But it would be pretty naive to ignore that he was hired, and see how the results improved after that. A transformation never seen in any sports happening while he was the team doctor? Quite a coincidence.

 

[The Hitch]

Fabricating a disease should be proof to any remotely rational person. That's ignoring the million other inconsistencies and lies in froome's story.

 

[rick james]

so you've no proof at all....thats good.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

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so you've no proof at all....thats good.

Where's the proof he's clean?

Inb4 no positive tests. Countless cyclists have ridden a supposedly clean career only to have admitted doping after retirement.

 

[BigMac]

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so you've no proof at all....thats good.

Where's the proof he's clean?

Inb4 no positive tests. Countless cyclists have ridden a supposedly clean career only to have admitted doping after retirement.

This question makes no sense, the burden is ours to prove it.

And no, I don't think he is clean.

 

[The Hitch]

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so you've no proof at all....thats good.

I have plenty

Keep living in fantasy land though

 

[DFA123]

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so you've no proof at all....thats good.

For about the 100th time: proof =/= evidence.

There is a huge amount of evidence that suggests Froome is most probably doping. Not least his performances.

 

[rick james]

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so you've no proof at all....thats good.

Where's the proof he's clean?

Inb4 no positive tests. Countless cyclists have ridden a supposedly clean career only to have admitted doping after retirement.

its you thats saying he is dirty..it's simple really, prove to me he is on the drugs and i will stop supporting him.

 

[rick james]

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so you've no proof at all....thats good.

I have plenty

Keep living in fantasy land though

good..lets see the evidence.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Where's the proof he's clean?

Esquire!
and the
the scientific article - still in preparation.