Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[LeindersGains]

I actually don't think Froome is using regular dope, it was a motor all along. That's why he see himself as clean.

 

[meat puppet]

Actually this is hilarious.

Motoring like that confirms froome is in great form. Tomorrow and the itt gonna be spectacular.

 

[MartinGT]

What a joke. Just sitting on a bike now will be doing a 'Froome' Brailsfraud will be a right smug b@stard this evening 'Well you need to be at the front' the bald w@nker

 

[thehog]

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After a rest day, no less.

Those arm warmers worked a treat!

 

[zalacain]

Froome really is taking the pith

 

[Rob27172]

Unfricking believable
The transformation to LA mark 2 is now complete
Team that rides on the front with sprinters teams without ever losing any power or ability - then completely able to rip the legs of the climbers teams the next days
takes on the climbers while seemingly being completely unfazed by their accelerations and chases down everything
takes on the ITT specialists and beats them at their game
and now personally takes on the green jersey and finishes with a sprint speed that would leave half the sprint contenders in his wake.

And all before he ventoux stage.

If he wins at the top of ventoux christian prudhomme should be charged under the trade descriptions act.
This is not a race it is a pre-ordained coronation ride for one rider from one team that have a completely free pass to do whatever the hell they like.

And lets not forget that he is probably doing all this, with an as yet, unnamed and unheard of illness that will be used to excuse whatever evidence of doping comes out in the next 6-9 months.

 

[ontheroad]

The cadence and power that Froome is able to transmit is insanity and even more so for a climber (well since 2011).

 

[DFA123]

We'll see in the next two days if Froome really has arrived at new levels of ridiculous. Perhaps he's just not confident in his climbing, so is taking anything when he can. If, as kind of expected, he destroys everyone on Ventoux and in the TT, this will be way, way more ridiculous than even Armstrong's most dominant performances. I can't imagine the French public would stand for it, even if the organisers clearly do.

 

[SeriousSam]

If I had to guess what's going to transpire for the rest of the tour, it would be the following:

Dawg undropable in the mountains without any silly attacks. Significant gains in the time trials seal it. Easy 'hard fought' victory that isn't even suspicious because doped up ITTs are overlooked by the public as such and well, Froome has always been a great time trialler hasn't he, second only to sir Bradley.

 

[MartinGT]

If the stage is cut tomorrow it may stop him going full *** and it will keep the masses down.

 

[LeindersGains]

http://www.thermal.com/

When didn't you guys think of this before? As a spectator, you can see if you can spot the motor on your smartphone. Maybe it turns out to be Quintana who is using a motor. Who knows? But someone needs give it a try.

 

[kwikki]

Ooh. What have I missed?

Better run downstairs and put on itv4 +1.

 

[meat puppet]

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If the stage is cut tomorrow it may stop him going full *** and it will keep the masses down.

Quite the opposite it seems to me. He is earning kudos with his "panache", courtesy of having extra watts ready at hand, as we speak.

 

[thehog]

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The cadence and power that Froome is able to transmit is insanity and even more so for a climber (well since 2011).

I believe he will become the greatest GT rider ever. He just needs to get 8 wins to cap it off.

 

[sniper]

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If I had to guess what's going to transpire for the rest of the tour, it would be the following:

Dawg undropable in the mountains without any silly attacks. Significant gains in the time trials seal it. Easy 'hard fought' victory that isn't even suspicious because doped up ITTs are overlooked by the public as such and well, Froome has always been a great time trialler hasn't he, second only to sir Bradley.

this, i'm afraid.

unless quintana is on the full *** sauce, it's gonna be boring.

 

[ontheroad]

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If I had to guess what's going to transpire for the rest of the tour, it would be the following:

Dawg undropable in the mountains without any silly attacks. Significant gains in the time trials seal it. Easy 'hard fought' victory that isn't even suspicious because doped up ITTs are overlooked by the public as such and well, Froome has always been a great time trialler hasn't he, second only to sir Bradley.

This.

The Sky train will fend off any attacks in the mountains, he might even give up a few token seconds in the latter stages if he has a buffer. Will make it seem hard fought. Will gain at least 30 seconds in Fridays time trial. It's obvious that Froome is unbelievably strong, chasing down attacks single handedly in the mountains and taking long pulls at the front today from 10k out. The narrative to take from the tour will then be the charismatic daredevil tactics of Froome in attacking on descents and on stages like today. That will fend off the massive heat that ripping up a big mountain stage brings.

I really hoped that Froome would be forced into going full gas in the mountains but it looks like he might have avoided the need to do so.

 

[PremierAndrew]

And why are ASO so keen to protect a non-French guy, who two weeks ago was by far one of the most disliked cyclists in the peloton, riding on a motorbike? I'd be surprised if he's not doping, but the conspiracy theories for Froome using a motor are ridiculous.

Electro-magnetic wheels come close to being undetectable, but even the electric currents needed for those generate heat, so ASO would know about it. Maybe Sky do have some undetectable ***, but no way ASO would
protect Sky/Froome if they did find something like that

 

[MartinGT]

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And why are ASO so keen to protect a non-French guy, who two weeks ago was by far one of the most disliked cyclists in the peloton, riding on a motorbike? I'd be surprised if he's not doping, but the conspiracy theories for Froome using a motor are ridiculous.

Electro-magnetic wheels come close to being undetectable, but even the electric currents needed for those generate heat, so ASO would know about it. Maybe Sky do have some undetectable ****, but no way ASO would
protect Sky/Froome if they did find something like that

New Corp......Thats why.

Ventoux is 6km shorter apparently, this will allow the Dawg to go even full *** and he will say its because its shorter it allows him to dig deepr.

 

[DFA123]

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And why are ASO so keen to protect a non-French guy, who two weeks ago was by far one of the most disliked cyclists in the peloton, riding on a motorbike? I'd be surprised if he's not doping, but the conspiracy theories for Froome using a motor are ridiculous.

Electro-magnetic wheels come close to being undetectable, but even the electric currents needed for those generate heat, so ASO would know about it. Maybe Sky do have some undetectable ****, but no way ASO would
protect Sky/Froome if they did find something like that

Agreed, I don't buy the motor theory. It makes absolutely no sense for his win on Peyresourde in particular - when he could have just used the motor on the climb to open up a gap instead of doing a crazy, slightly risky descent.

It just looks like Armstrong to me, a rider who can put out 20 watts more than his rivals (apart from maybe Quintana) and who has the strongest team by far. But Froome is a bit less of a control freak than Armstrong and slightly more of a free spirit, willing to entertain and take a few more risks.

 

[Benotti69]

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And why are ASO so keen to protect a non-French guy, who two weeks ago was by far one of the most disliked cyclists in the peloton, riding on a motorbike? I'd be surprised if he's not doping, but the conspiracy theories for Froome using a motor are ridiculous.

Electro-magnetic wheels come close to being undetectable, but even the electric currents needed for those generate heat, so ASO would know about it. Maybe Sky do have some undetectable ****, but no way ASO would
protect Sky/Froome if they did find something like that

ASO had no problem with Armstrong who in 2005 was positively toxic, never mind his return in 2009.

 

[SeriousSam]

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I really hoped that Froome would be forced into going full gas in the mountains but it looks like he might have avoided the need to do so.

This is exactly why I said I hope that he loses a few minutes with a mechanical in the RR forum.

Froome's first shot at the Tour de France saw him obliterate the peloton at Ax3, obliterate the peloton in a pancake flat time trial, and obliterate the peloton at Mont Ventoux. He won another time trial for good measure and controlled the rest of the mountains. It was an absurd power advantage over the nearest competitor throughout the Tour, incredibly dominant.

In 2015, he obliterated the peloton at PSM and was then so far ahead of Quintana thanks to the stage 2 loss than the entire rest of the Tour was just pure control.

Yet his PSM performance led to a lot of doubts and negative PR that spilled over into mainstream media, and Sky were had to work hard to repair the damage, culminating with a brilliant coup when they got a scientist on record effectively absolving Froome without that being backed up by the analysis that scientist did.

If Froome and Sky had the means to win the Tour without a full *** MTF performance because time trialling isn't deemed suspicious, would they take it? I think they would.

 

[Saint Unix]

Could very well be that he'll take about a minute on the time trial and leave it there. After the sh*tstorm that followed the Pierre St. Martin stage last year, I doubt we'll see Froome obliterating the field on a MTF unless he absolutely has to. To the layman, taking time in the downhills, echelons and time trials seems much less sketchy. It just looks like good tactics and skillful riding, plus Froome was always a better TT-rider than Nairo, so that's just normal. People in the know can tell you all about the ridiculous power output needed to pull off a stunt like the one we saw today or competing at the top of flat TT.

People are far too willing to forget the long list of suspect performances that precede this one. Even in 2012 the fact that Froome had made the quantum leap from total anonymity less than a year earlier wasn't even a subject amongst most people. "He did well in the Vuelta," they'd tell you. Same with Wiggins. Oh, he came fourth behind three of the most obvious dopers in the peloton in 2009 after being a track rider/fat TT guy for the entirety of his career? Nothing suspect about that at all. He lost some weight, after all.

Cycling fans in general are idiots. It blows my mind that the reaction from so-called experts hasn't been utter disbelief and refusal to accept what's going on right from the get-go, and at this point we're getting so deep into it that Froome "was always a great cyclist". Making it seem like he's winning a Tour with "good tactics" and "great bike-handling" rather than having a massive power advantage over everyone will make the masses forget even more what a fraud this guy is, not to mention the rest of his team.

 

[thehog]

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I really hoped that Froome would be forced into going full gas in the mountains but it looks like he might have avoided the need to do so.

This is exactly why I said I hope that he loses a few minutes with a mechanical in the RR forum.

Froome's first shot at the Tour de France saw him obliterate the peloton at Ax3, obliterate the peloton in a pancake flat time trial, and obliterate the peloton at Mont Ventoux. He won another time trial for good measure and controlled the rest of the mountains. It was an absurd power advantage over the nearest competitor throughout the Tour, incredibly dominant.

In 2015, he obliterated the peloton at PSM and was then so far ahead of Quintana thanks to the stage 2 loss than the entire rest of the Tour was just pure control.

Yet his PSM performance led to a lot of doubts and negative PR that spilled over into mainstream media, and Sky were had to work hard to repair the damage, culminating with a brilliant coup when they got a scientist on record effectively absolving Froome without that being backed up by the analysis that scientist did.

If Froome and Sky had the means to win the Tour without a full *** MTF performance because time trialling isn't deemed suspicious, would they take it? I think they would.

Generally the race itself dictates what you can and can't do. In today's stage I would agree that he was "aware and ready" to make the move he made. However, holding off a steaming peloton for almost 10km was unbelievable. In saying that he had Sagan with him to maintain the distance, what was most shocking was the manner that he rode away in the first instance. That's really hard to do unless you're build a lot heavier.

 

[SeriousSam]

It was Froome that closed the gap, without any help. Thomas was closer to him than he was to Sagan and Bodnar, and he struggled.

https://twitter.com/CyclingHubTV/status/753248228208996352

 

[Benotti69]

Froome bossing the tour like Merkcx or Armstrong........