Angliru said:
You need to be a lot more specific than "According to the peloton at the time". You say this as if it is common knowledge which it is/was not and still is arguable regardless of what you may believe or attest to being fact.
The rumors aren't arguable. They're real. (again, see Lemond+evidence threads)
Scienceiscool can say it's one or two persons, but it wasn't. The rumor lived in the entire peloton, and that over at least two generations (from the Dhaenens/Gisbers era to Floyd/Boogerd era).
No, I don't pretend the rumors are common knowledge in the Clinic. I wouldn't be pointing it out to Nomad if I thought that.
To be 100% sure: the *existence* of the rumors is fact. The *veracity* of the rumors is of course debatable. I've never said anything differently.
If you have any questions or are looking for links, please ask them in the Lemond thread or in PM, I'll be happy to help you out.
gillan1969 said:
gillian, it must suck not be able to call out Wiggins and Froome anymore without looking like a bit of a hypocrit. Wanna talk about it?